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I have seen TNG, DS9 and Voyager tonnes of times and love watching them over and over again. I love all the movies as well and gladly rewatch them. TOS has never appealed to me though and as iconic as the characters are, some of the sets, acting and special effects make me cringe. I have caught the odd episode but I don't think I could bring myself to watch the whole series.
I don't blame you there. I watch it as part of the experience. It is certainly overrated IMO, although there is some episodes that are worth a watch. Space Seed being one of them.
I don't blame you there. I watch it as part of the experience. It is certainly overrated IMO, although there is some episodes that are worth a watch. Space Seed being one of them.
Has to be The Trouble With Tribbles, and the way they tied it in to DS9.
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I don't blame you there. I watch it as part of the experience. It is certainly overrated IMO, although there is some episodes that are worth a watch. Space Seed being one of them.
There are only three episodes I can remember and they are the tribbles, the one where they encounter the romulans for the first time in a fuzzy triangular ship and one where they have to go down to a planet to help people who are mysteriously dying. I think it was something to do with a mining operation and animals being released from subterranean caverns. They looked like slugs with a volcanic rock outer shell.
People always go on about acting, stories and all that saying how amazing it is. It could be an age thing but I just can't get into it.
It was of its time, and was advanced (for its time) in a number of ways.
However, to someone not of that time, it can appear stilted and quite quaint (because so many of the things it was "first" on, have been done so many times since).
It’s like (imho) the love of a classic car - you either love it, with all its faults/quirks/outdated technology, or you think "what’s all the fuss about?".
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People always go on about acting, stories and all that saying how amazing it is. It could be an age thing but I just can't get into it.
As Hugh said.
You really have to see it in its own context. Nothing made in the mid 1960s is going to stand up to today’s standards. The best tv series today are technically better in many respects than what was made for cinema only a few years ago.
The original Star Trek series took a basic sci fi idea that has been done repeatedly in American film and tv but treated it in a radically new way. It made extremely bold cultural moves by putting a black woman in the regular cast, a Russian in charge of the ship’s operations and an angry southern racist in the sick bay who treats Uhura with equanimity and whose regular jibes aimed at his green blooded, pointy eared superior officer are always ineffective and increasingly ridiculous. It did this week in, week out, rarely treating it as a spectacle or making any of it the main subject of discourse. This is simply the future as Roddenberry saw it. His storytelling instead focused on issues like the rise of Nazism (Patterns of Force), the cold horror of submarine warfare (Balance of Terror, which also had a clever and important message against the othering of one’s enemy), and the sheer absurdity of slavery (The Gamesters of Triskelion).
If you want your tv to do your thinking for you then any old show will be difficult viewing, but if you can make the leap to treating classic shows as cultural artefacts and viewing them for what they were when they were made, then stuff like Star Trek is time well spent.
I’d venture to suggest that 50 years from now, TOS will still have a towering reputation, whereas Discovery, despite its state of the art production, will be a mere footnote ...
This is the only source I can find atm. The new season 3 trailer starts at 38 seconds but I think I have linked the thumbnail to it takes you to the right place. Fingers crossed
Click the link below if you want to go straight to the trailler
Teaser from Discovery Season 3 - skip to 1:35 to miss the ComicCon chatter.
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