[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU - Page 243

Big Brian · 24-06-2016, 06:44

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Originally Posted by Damien

Yes congrats Leave.

I really hope the estimations of what will happen are wrong.

No sensible leave voter believes it will be a bed of roses. We'll take a hit because of the uncertainty but it will settle down. However, I don't believe it will be as bad as they say it will and I don't think Companies will leave in their droves. They will have contingency plans ready to implement. I doubt Nissan will leave as my area, NE England voted overwhelmingly for leave and they will respect that decision.

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Congratulations to the Leave voters - democracy in action.

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Dont forget that half of all immigrants don't come from the EU.

The post does say 'the world' as well.

**Damien** · 24-06-2016, 06:47

Also wish I took my pension out of tracker funds before this morning

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Originally Posted by Big Brian

No sensible leave voter believes it will be a bed of roses. We'll take a hit because of the uncertainty but it will settle down. However, I don't believe it will be as bad as they say it will and I don't think Companies will leave in their droves. They will have contingency plans ready to implement. I doubt Nissan will leave as my area, NE England voted overwhelmingly for leave and they will respect that decision.

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The post does say 'the world' as well.

Like I said I hope I am wrong. It's time for Leave to deliver on their promises now because whilst last night was a clear rebuke to the establishment it's nothing like the anger that will be incurred if the promises don't come true.

Escapee · 24-06-2016, 06:49

I popped into my local pub last night and chatted to one of the regulars. We have had quite a few heated discussions over the past few months because he was all for remain.

You could have knocked me over with a feather when he said he had voted to leave. He said the last minute game changer that clinched it for him was when he read Junkers arrogant comments in the newspaper that morning. It made him realise that it would never be possible to change the EU from within.

MalteseFalcon · 24-06-2016, 06:54

It's a wonderful morning, for me it is anyway. And if I'm racist because of it, then I make no apologies for being racist. Although how I can be racist when I vote to leave, but have several friends of ethnic backgrounds. Ho hum.

Got a horrible feeling though that this will be like the Lisbon Treaty and they will rerun the vote until they get what they want.

passingbat · 24-06-2016, 06:54

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Originally Posted by ianch99

People dislike even more smug winners

Agreed. We can't forget the 48% who wanted to stay in.

jamiefrost · 24-06-2016, 06:57

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Originally Posted by Big Brian

No sensible leave voter believes it will be a bed of roses. We'll take a hit because of the uncertainty but it will settle down. However, I don't believe it will be as bad as they say it will and I don't think Companies will leave in their droves. They will have contingency plans ready to implement. I doubt Nissan will leave as my area, NE England voted overwhelmingly for leave and they will respect that decision.

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The post does say 'the world' as well.

I really hope you are right as it's currently 7% and falling against the euro. This wipes out any benefits from removing vat from fuel for example.

The question is where it will end up long term, everyone thinks it will be lower just not sure how bad.

J

**Damien** · 24-06-2016, 06:57

Congrats to Farage I guess too, you can't say he hasn't fought hard for this.

Pierre · 24-06-2016, 07:04

The pounds doing well.

Well here we go.

Horizon · 24-06-2016, 07:07

Would love to stay here and respond to some comments folks, but after a long night of work peppered with a few minutes of forum chitchat here and there, I've now got a whole day's work to do too.

What a good day! and to top if off, the monsoon has stopped and the sun is out.

Big Brian · 24-06-2016, 07:10

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Originally Posted by Damien

Also wish I took my pension out of tracker funds before this morning

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Like I said I hope I am wrong. It's time for Leave to deliver on their promises now because whilst last night was a clear rebuke to the establishment it's nothing like the anger that will be incurred if the promises don't come true.

For that to happen you have to have a Government that can implement the promises unlike the one we have now. Take immigration for example. Cameron knew in 2012 he couldn't keep the promise of cutting it down to tens of thousands because of the freedom of movement law. Yet he was elected last year on that promise knowing full well it was a lie.

The Tories are going to be around for the foreseeable future so they need a leader who is a leaver and a team of the same in order to begin implementing these promises. For this to happen, the current team have to step aside and let them get on with it. Can you see this happening?

**Damien** · 24-06-2016, 07:46

I think the idea that what happens to the markets doesn't impact on real people will be challenged in the coming year(s) and if so it is going to get nasty.

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I have never wanted to be so wrong in my life but I can't see the EU giving us the deal we need. I think people will lose homes, jobs and savings,

24-06-2016, 07:52

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Originally Posted by Damien

I think the idea that what happens to the markets doesn't impact on real people will be challenged in the coming year(s) and if so it is going to get nasty.

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I have never wanted to be so wrong in my life but I can't see the EU giving us the deal we need. I think people will lose homes, jobs and savings,

I have a feeling the UK is going to flourish, a little uncertainty followed by the UK ruling the UK to benefit the UK.

You're going to have to learn how to have pride in your country, how to have faith in the people of your country, how to stand on your own 2 feet. Change has happened now let's work together and make this change a change for the better. It is up to us!!

Big Brian · 24-06-2016, 07:57

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Originally Posted by Damien

I think the idea that what happens to the markets doesn't impact on real people will be challenged in the coming year(s) and if so it is going to get nasty.

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I have never wanted to be so wrong in my life but I can't see the EU giving us the deal we need. I think people will lose homes, jobs and savings,

On The News this morning: Netherlands want a referendum. Lepen in France has called for a referendum. Denmark and Italy are looking for a referendum. The Germans want to trade with us as normal. The EU as we have been saying all along is a dying swan and will inevitably break up into Sovereign Democratic States.

This is what is happening and any Companies or Jobs that decide to move to Europe will end up the same as they are here. It is my belief they will now hold off to see what happens in the rest of Europe regarding referenda and the results thereof. It would not be in the interests of the banks to relocate in the present climate.

As of today, nothing has changed. We are still in the EU until Article 50 is invoked and negotiations are complete.

Though the Germans are disappointed at our leaving they still want to trade and I believe that other countries will follow suit.

In the event of others leaving the EU, I don't see trade being a problems or in fact, getting a good deal from the remaining EU countries.

Of course, this is going to take time but I believe the UK and the others who decide to leave the sinking ship will benefit from this. All we have done is knock the first brick out of the wall of a derelict building which, like all derelict buildings must be demolished.

Gary L · 24-06-2016, 08:00

Yes!

We have defeated Dave!

now we just point and laugh at him with the rest of the world.

let's give him some time to pack and compose himself.

Big Brian · 24-06-2016, 08:05

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Yes!

We have defeated Dave!

now we just point and laugh at him with the rest of the world.

let's give him some time to pack and compose himself.

His days are now numbered sooner than he planned. There is now talk of an Autumn election though I'm not sure if there will be. I think there has to be an election though in order to get a Brexit Government in place who will get the best deal possible for us now we are leaving.

Pointing and laughing is all fine and well and I do that to the Tories anyway. However we must take into account the 48% who voted to remain when making any decisions for our future

The point of all this is that we, the minority were right in 1975 and that has now been vindicated.