[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

[Dave42]

Farage implying vote is rigged shocking

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Damien

Leave are getting massive postal votes....

Source?

We can but hope, a leave win is not just the first step for us to improve the uk but also the first step for millions in Europe to get the same vote and collapse the EU. After that's gone we can start rebuilding something across Europe that is far more democratic and accountable to the people of Europe and doesn't have the goal of a federal Europe.

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Dave42

Farage implying vote is rigged shocking

Source?

[Dave42]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Source?

he was on both bbc and sky given a speech

Newcastle isn't as strongly remain as expected either. Remain are in big trouble now, betting markets going away from them too

[adzii_nufc]

I don't understand it? Sunderland voting leave suggests a big leave vote overall? I don't fully understand how this pans out. Just seem to be watching a pretending I know...

I mean I assumed Sunderland would vote leave because its overun with chavs and a corrupt police force forever ruining a potentially nice city and annoying the genuine people. That's a stereotype but trust me I've been. It didn't have the worst council estate in the country for nothing. Naturally not everyone voted leave because they're a yob but I'm sure the Facebook warriors posting 'We're voting leave because we're tired of 'racial slur' explicit and so forth' helped boost those figures.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Sure it wasn't signed up to by the Blair government shortly after coming to power in 1997 and became law in 1998?

A quick Google points out that the UK was criticised and threatened with sanction for not implementing it fully but we were not compelled to implement it at all from what I can gather, voluntary choice by the government of the day.

My only real objection to this is that it's a government binding subsequent ones via the EU. Giving up the opt-out is, according to treaties, etc, irrevocable.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsVV3fpVNKI

Phil/Thunderf00t handing Sargon his hindmost throughout this. I rather like his style. The arguments Sargon is using are the same ones many on this side use.

I remembered the issue at the time.

After the 1993 Council Negotiations, when the Directive was agreed to after an 11-1 vote, UK Employment Secretary David Hunt said "It is a flagrant abuse of Community rules. It has been brought forward as such simply to allow majority voting – a ploy to smuggle through part of the Social Chapter by the back door. The UK strongly opposes any attempt to tell people that they can no longer work the hours they want

[Jimmy-J]

#IVotedLeave is trending on twitter with over 100k tweets.

[nomadking]

Sunderland has come along and messed with any predictions.

Remain is collapsing on the betting markets, leave seem to have done it

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Damien

Remain is collapsing on the betting markets, leave seem to have done it

Relax Damien. Leave have won by a majority. a poll down the street represents the rest of Britain.

Originally Posted by Damien

Remain is collapsing on the betting markets, leave seem to have done it

It's very early days, but Remain ought to have done better in Newcastle and Leave has done a tad better than expected in Sunderland. There is also apparently a slightly low turnout in Scotland, which is likely to deprive Remain of more votes than it would for Leave.

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by Chris

It's very early days, but Remain ought to have done better in Newcastle and Leave has done a tad better than expected in Sunderland. There is also apparently a slightly low turnout in Scotland, which is likely to deprive Remain of more votes than it would for Leave.

Indeed and the Newcastle vote is more interesting than Sunderland for the reason you say. It was meant to be a strong remain area and they only just won it.

That comment on the BBC about the millions of postal votes I think blew everything wide open in that they're meant to be older voters all voting leave.

Rumours of massive Leave votes in Warwickshire ...