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					Originally Posted by  Kursk
					 
				 
				I'm confused now. You seem not to think of yourself as a 'sore loser' whilst Hugh has cited you as being one. If you're not a sore loser it seems unfair and personal for anyone to suggest that you are. 
			
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			27-12-2016, 22:23
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Hugh
					 
				 
				It's not like they keep insulting those who disagree with them, is it? 
			
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 I've taken to insulting remoaners because of the torrents of abuse that I started receiving from them right after the outcome of the vote. If they can't handle it, they shouldn't dish it out in the first place      
 
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				You've confused me too Kursk, if it's any consolation    
			
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 Well, since you voted remain, it's a given that you're easily confused.    
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-12-2016, 22:23
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Ramrod
					 
				 
				I've taken to insulting remoaners because of the torrents of abuse that I started receiving from them right after the outcome of the vote. If they can't handle it, they shouldn't dish it out in the first place      
			
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 And then people say the same about you after all many of the 'remoaners' you insult would be people who didn't insult others....
 
In the end you'll both still be in the gutter, what does it matter who fell in first?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			27-12-2016, 22:31
			
			
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				And then people say the same about you after all many of the 'remoaners' you insult would be people who didn't insult others.... 
			
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  I get the distinct feeling that those who I insult will all have been 'guilty' of the same thing first.
 
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				In the end you'll both still be in the gutter, what does it matter who fell in first?
			
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  At least I'll be looking at the stars, whereas remoaners are always contemplating the drains.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			28-12-2016, 00:03
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Ramrod
					 
				 
				I've taken to insulting remoaners because of the torrents of abuse that I started receiving from them right after the outcome of the vote. If they can't handle it, they shouldn't dish it out in the first place      
			
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 Can you give us some examples of these "torrents of abuse" you personally received?  
 
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				I get the distinct feeling that those who I insult will all have been 'guilty' of the same thing first.D 
			
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 Ah now it is a "feeling" that you have been insulted .. Mmmm ... if we're not careful, you will be driving around in a bus with the offending remarks writ large
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			28-12-2016, 00:07
			
			
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				Can you give us some examples of these "torrents of abuse" you personally received? 
			
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 Can't be bothered to revisit all that. You'll just have to use your imagination.....but be sure to include the words 'idiot', racist', 'stupid' in your musings.
 
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 No, it's not a feeling that I've been insulted. If you read my post  carefully, it's a feeling that the person that I'm insulting has already done the same to a brexiteer  
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			28-12-2016, 00:14
			
			
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				Can't be bothered to revisit all that. You'll just have to use your imagination.....but be sure to include the words 'idiot', racist', 'stupid' in your musings 
			
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 Ah, so says an "honest" post-truther ... 2017 will be fun   
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			28-12-2016, 00:48
			
			
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In the end you'll both still be in the gutter, what does it matter who fell in first? 
			
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 Wrong, we would have been in gutter had we remained in EU, it is a sinking ship, not a question of if it fails but when ?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			28-12-2016, 09:59
			
			
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				Wrong, we would have been in gutter had we remained in EU, it is a sinking ship, not a question of if it fails but when ? 
			
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 Everything fails in the end Mick, even us. The EU isn't perfect, however if we think we're better off outside the biggest single market in the World, then we're living in cloud Cuckoo land.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			28-12-2016, 10:53
			
			
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				Everything fails in the end Mick, even us. The EU isn't perfect, however if we think we're better off outside the biggest single market in the World, then we're living in cloud Cuckoo land. 
			
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 There's plenty of evidence to suggest that the single market has actually held us back over the years in terms of trading with other nations ,this report goes into great detail to explain why the single market isn't as good as it is made out to be 
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Basically the single market only really benefits those countries that are net recipients of the EU ,net contributors like us don't really benefit ,we have more expensive goods and we take more economic refugees than most other EU countries .There's also the problem that the single market makes no account for the differences in a countries social infrastructure ,we have the NHS and a comprehensive welfare system free and open to any EU citizen because of the single market free movement rules ,where is the same system in France or Germany
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			28-12-2016, 11:26
			
			
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				Wrong, we would have been in gutter had we remained in EU, it is a sinking ship, not a question of if it fails but when ? 
			
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 I wasn't referring to the EU but how we treat each other.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			28-12-2016, 11:38
			
			
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				Who is this 'we?' 
			
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 Everyone. I was referring to the difference between people who insult each other (in the gutter) and those who don't. More specifically it was just an analogy that points out 'who started it first' ultimately doesn't matter.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			28-12-2016, 12:11
			
			
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				No, it's not a feeling that I've been insulted. If you read my post carefully, it's a feeling that the person that I'm insulting has already done the same to a brexiteer 
			
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 So *if* you were insulting me then that means I must have called you "racist", etc. I certainly don't recall calling anyone on this forum racist so you are either mistaken or just overreacting ..
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Everything fails in the end Mick, even us. The EU isn't perfect, however if we think we're better off outside the biggest single market in the World, then we're living in cloud Cuckoo land. 
			
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 Well, you are so fundamentally wrong. When EU fails and it will fail, do you think the single market will still exist or be worth staying in it ?
 
Stop thinking in such small terms as that is living in cuckoo land.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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