Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Damien

People have largely moved on from this being the central issue of politics.

Oh no they haven’t. You are speaking with forked tongue Remoaner. Boris’s scalp has been the target ever since he led us out of the mealy-mouthed, appeasing EU.

Remainers never give up on their baloney.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Mordaunt strikes me as the candidate with the least adverse form.

I believe

Truss to be a facade,
Sunak to be uncommitted to the UK,
Hunt is rhyming slang,
Tugendhat to be least unacceptable
Javid to be too political,
Shapps ditto.

You are about right regards your analysis. You have, however, chosen the two people who have achieved nothing notable and who, for most people in the country, are anonymous.

I think it sums up the shallow pool of talent available when the only people available are those who were willing to unthinkingly follow the Pied Piper of Brexit.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by ianch99

I think it sums up the shallow pool of talent available when the only people available are those who were willing to unthinkingly follow the Pied Piper of Brexit.

Yep, leave/remain is still the issue. At least you’re man enough to admit it; other remoaners are taking a more covert tack.

Originally Posted by Kursk

Oh no they haven’t. You are speaking with forked tongue Remoaner. Boris’s scalp has been the target ever since he led us out of the mealy-mouthed, appeasing EU.

Remainers never give up on their baloney.

Then why do you think the candidates are appealing to the membership with tax cuts and culture war issues as their focus rather than Brexit? All of them will say they support Brexit now it's done. None of them would dare try to reverse it or they'll be turfed out by their own party ASAP.

If Boris Johnson was the victim of a Remoaner plot then why were two of his biggest detractors in getting him out key figures of the Leave campaigns? Dominic Cummings and Steve Baker. If Remoaners were so powerful in the Tory Party they would have deposed Johnson long ago. He went because of his own incompetence.

As for me talking with a forked tongue then why would I? I am not involved in the Tory Party, I have no incentive to lie about what I think their internal fights are about. Believe it or not, people who supported Remain are not all in a secret club where we do our plotting.

I wanted Remain, we lost, I would vote to Remain again but it's not my obsession now.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by ianch99

You are about right regards your analysis. You have, however, chosen the two people who have achieved nothing notable and who, for most people in the country, are anonymous.

I think it sums up the shallow pool of talent available when the only people available are those who were willing to unthinkingly follow the Pied Piper of Brexit.

Apart from your Brexit remark, you are sort of right about the shallow field.

But it occurs to me that someone who's not fully British (Tugendhat) as I've just found out, should be discounted. He holds dual British/French nationality and that's even worse than criminal!

So, for me, Mordaunt it is unless she fails to demonstrate that she is a full person in her own right, closer to the public that the other lot.

Otherwise, "none of the above".

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Damien

Then why do you think the candidates are appealing to the membership with tax cuts and culture war issues as their focus rather than Brexit? All of them will say they support Brexit now it's done. None of them would dare try to reverse it or they'll be turfed out by their own party ASAP.

If Boris Johnson was the victim of a Remoaner plot then why were two of his biggest detractors in getting him out key figures of the Leave campaigns? Dominic Cummings and Steve Baker. If Remoaners were so powerful in the Tory Party they would have deposed Johnson long ago. He went because of his own incompetence.

As for me talking with a forked tongue then why would I? I am not involved in the Tory Party, I have no incentive to lie about what I think their internal fights are about. Believe it or not, people who supported Remain are not all in a secret club where we do our plotting.

I wanted Remain, we lost, I would vote to Remain again but it's not my obsession now.

Methinks thou doth protest too much Remoaner .

Originally Posted by Kursk

Methinks thou doth protest too much Remoaner .

Alright.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

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But it occurs to me that someone who's not fully British (Tugendhat) as I've just found out, should be discounted. He holds dual British/French nationality and that's even worse than criminal!

Bit harsh. He even fought for Britain in the army. Dual nationals should be fine IMO.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Damien

Alright.



Bit harsh. He even fought for Britain in the army. Dual nationals should be fine IMO.

I think sephs a bit worried he might get a second job cycling around London selling onions.

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by Damien

Alright.

Aw, c’mon Redamien, it’s only a forum.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Damien

Alright.



Bit harsh. He even fought for Britain in the army. Dual nationals should be fine IMO.

But if you combine Remainer with French, I fear how he might handle the continuing Brexit issues. It needs teasing out of him by the press inquisitors.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

But if you combine Remainer with French, I fear how he might handle the continuing Brexit issues. It needs teasing out of him by the press inquisitors.

I suspect they won't go after him for being a French citizen.

Not sure if he'll get through to the final round anyway though. I think it'll be Truss vs Sunak.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Damien

I suspect they won't go after him for being a French citizen.

Not sure if he'll get through to the final round anyway though. I think it'll be Truss vs Sunak.

That would be a great pity for me.

[Mr K]

I think they've all taken the Boris' precedent of lying now being allowed. Tax cuts for everyone, plus free sweeties, but no cuts to public services.
Might fool the Tory faithful but the electorate won't be conned.

Anyway, entertaining to see them tearing each other apart for a couple of months. Can't see any red wall voters , who might have voted for Boris, voting for any of these muppets. A shoe in for the innocent Sir K...

Meanwhile who is running the Country? I'm sure they haven’t put personal ambition ahead of the day job?

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Mr K

I think they've all taken the Boris' precedent of lying now being allowed. Tax cuts for everyone, plus free sweeties, but no cuts to public services.
Might fool the Tory faithful but the electorate won't be conned.

Anyway, entertaining to see them tearing each other apart for a couple of months. Can't see any red wall voters , who might have voted for Boris, voting for any of these muppets. A shoe in for the innocent Sir K...

Meanwhile who is running the Country? I'm sure they haven’t put personal ambition ahead of the day job?

You sort of have a point there, Mr, K. The red wall voters may take to Mordaunt but, imo, they would spit on Starmer

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

That would be a great pity for me.

And for me. Governed by, on one hand, a person that is so out of touch with reality, he probably does not know how many homes he has and on the other, err, a moron.