Brexit (Old) - Page 233

OLD BOY · 21-11-2018, 10:03

Frankly, this discussion is going around in circles. Maybe it's better to just await the outcome of the Brussels talks and the Parliamentary vote before doing yet another rotation.

jfman · 21-11-2018, 10:13

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Frankly, this discussion is going around in circles. Maybe it's better to just await the outcome of the Brussels talks and the Parliamentary vote before doing yet another rotation.

I’m inclined to agree, I fundamentally disagree with many points in the Brexit debate but ultimately the debate is over.

If the PM and Parliament decide to remain against the advisory referendum (as I think they might) that’s a separate decision and the merits of doing so a political calculation against the contingency plans (or lack of) for no deal.

djfunkdup · 21-11-2018, 10:18

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Originally Posted by jfman

If the PM and Parliament decide to remain against the advisory referendum (as I think they might)

jfman · 21-11-2018, 10:26

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That’s the second time you’ve made that post and offered nothing further to the discussion on that point.

Can you answer the question why Jacob Rees-Mogg is in a panic to remove the Prime Minister?

OLD BOY · 21-11-2018, 10:35

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That’s the second time you’ve made that post and offered nothing further to the discussion on that point.

Can you answer the question why Jacob Rees-Mogg is in a panic to remove the Prime Minister?

That's an easy one. He wants a Brexiteer in charge to bring about a no-deal Brexit.

Mr K · 21-11-2018, 10:40

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That's an easy one. He wants a Brexiteer in charge to bring about a no-deal Brexit.

Then he's clearly bonkers. No deal =chaos.

**Mick** · 21-11-2018, 11:26

This topic is now in the last chance saloon - in other words the next course of action needed on it, I will close it and it will only open at the teams discretion and when there is major updates.

The last week, has seen this thread slip back in to major division, with each side having a go at each other. Two reported posts in the last hour and one the other day.

Accusations being thrashed about, people's mental health being brought in to question - this is not an acceptable discussion path and it will change or this thread gets closed and crucially, the people responsible for it's closure, dealt with accordingly.

Stop making references to trolls.

Stop making unfounded accusations to either side.

Stop provoking each other.

Keep things civil

Remember LAST CHANCE SALOON!

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If members have a query regarding the above - they should use the correct procedure.

That is using the Private Message facility!

Dave42 · 21-11-2018, 12:10

Amber Rudd says parliament will stop a 'no deal' Brexit happening

https://news.sky.com/story/amber-rud...ening-11559382

**Damien** · 21-11-2018, 12:20

May seems to have taken the same tone saying 'It's this deal or no Brexit'. 'No Deal is better than a Bad Deal' has been dropped.

Dave42 · 21-11-2018, 12:22

Teressa May just confirmed im PMQ's the £39bn is to meet legal obligations

denphone · 21-11-2018, 12:22

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May seems to have taken the same tone saying 'It's this deal or no Brexit'. 'No Deal is better than a Bad Deal' has been dropped.

Reality has finally set in..

**Mick** · 21-11-2018, 12:24

Parliament cannot stop a no deal scenario - The EU Withdrawal act says so, the same Act that says we leave on 29th March 2019, this is in law, it will take another Legislative Bill to undo that law.

Parliament can only, as it stands agree a deal or not, there is no scenario in the Act that says no Brexit.

Dave42 · 21-11-2018, 12:27

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Originally Posted by Mick

Parliament cannot stop a no deal scenario - The EU Withdrawal act says so, the same Act that says we leave on 29th March 2019, this is in law, it will take another Legislative Bill to undo that law.

Parliament can only, as it stands agree a deal or not, there is no scenario in the Act that says no Brexit.

acts can be changed in parliament though

denphone · 21-11-2018, 12:29

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Originally Posted by Mick

Parliament cannot stop a no deal scenario - The EU Withdrawal act says so, the same Act that says we leave on 29th March 2019, this is in law, it will take another Legislative Bill to undo that law.

Parliament can only, as it stands agree a deal or not, there is no scenario in the Act that says no Brexit.

And that is why there will be a deal no matter how unswallowable that is for some.

**Damien** · 21-11-2018, 12:31

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Originally Posted by Mick

Parliament cannot stop a no deal scenario - The EU Withdrawal act says so, the same Act that says we leave on 29th March 2019, this is in law, it will take another Legislative Bill to undo that law.

Parliament can only, as it stands agree a deal or not, there is no scenario in the Act that says no Brexit.

Parliament can pass another legislative bill to undo the EU withdrawal act. Bills can be pass really quickly if the political will is there. Nothing binds Parliament, what Parliament does it can undo by design.