BNP loses seats

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by towny

I really do believe that Government's natural urge to pin down and control everything should be curbed, and I don't accept the suggested 'advantages' of an ID card. People will be people; they will find other ways to misbehave.

I'm sort of neither for nor against it (ID cards, not the rapture, I'm against that, but that's another story ).

If it was brought in, as a law abiding citizen who already has a passport and driving licence and national security card, it wouldn't make much difference, just an extra form of ID which always comes in handy when getting credit/hiring cars/joining blockbusters.
I think that the only really acceptable bio scan ID would be irus, as you don't leave that behind when you've been somewhere (unlike DNA or fingerprints, and of course fingerprints are far from perfect forms of ID).

As has been mentioned, criminals will eventually be able to forge near identical copies, unless in order to be used, they must always be checked against the central database, which of course will restrict their uses.
I'm invisioning something like at a police station where they swipe the card and it brings up your details with image/irus scan so that it can be checked against the person presenting the card.

If visual checks are all that's going to be used, like someone looking at your driving licence, then that's no proof that you are the same person as the name on the card (ok your pic might be the same as you but that could be forged, where as the pic that the database has can't) so it invalidates the card's purpose.

Originally Posted by towny

Out of interest, why exactly are you a member of a discussion forum?

I could ask you the same question

[Xaccers]

Oh will you lot stop your bloody bickering.
You have different views, you're also adults (I'm pretty sure you are), so come on, I've had enough, behave.

[carlingman]

Originally Posted by Xaccers

Oh will you lot stop your bloody bickering.
You have different views, you're also adults (I'm pretty sure you are), so come on, I've had enough, behave.

Well put Xaccers.

Any chance everyone could now for a change drift back onto the orignal topic rather than hijack this into a debate about ID Cards.

Subtle reminder of the original post / thread title -

Originally Posted by kronas

im so happy the BNP has lost 2 seats in the by-elections in lancashire and halifax yorkshire

Admin Edit <Steve_NTL> Provocotive comments removed, please refrain from posting abuse in here, Thanks.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/3199144.stm

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by carlingman

Any chance everyone could now for a change drift back onto the orignal topic rather than hijack this into a debate about ID Cards.

That was my fault sorry, I suggested to Defiant we start a thread about id cards as well always seem to argue about asylum issues!

Or at leats I do......Defiant goes on about "vaults" which im still looking into!

[aliferste]

HEY HEY HEY!!!!

Maybe we could start an official "asylum seeker" thread we could all refer back to when people come up with the same opinions again and again and again!!!

[Xaccers]

Originally Posted by carlingman

Well put Xaccers.

Any chance everyone could now for a change drift back onto the orignal topic rather than hijack this into a debate about ID Cards.

Thank you Carling

[Shaun]

Sorry to drag this one up again guys, but I got this through my door today, peddling more of their untruths and hopeless gimmicky pledges, what a joke.

Great, conning some poor pensioner into being their propaganda tool. How low can you get?

[aliferste]

All talk no action thankfully

Originally Posted by aliferste

All talk no action thankfully

Yes, but for how long? That's what worries me.

[Tiptoes]

There is always the alternative..

In salford there is the Local Community Party runby a guy called Jack Crossfield..

I have emailed him for the link to his site................

And in othe parts of the country what about the UKIP party

http://www.independence.org.uk/home.shtml

[aliferste]

Originally Posted by towny

Yes, but for how long? That's what worries me.

Hmmmmm....thats a point actually. At least at the moment they dont turn up for meetings etc, dont actually vote in anything worthwhile......but maybe that i sthere plan.....once they have enough seats they will start all the badness?