08-10-2024, 20:07
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Re: US Election 2024
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I thought the rest of the text gave a more nuanced view…
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American firms and consumers paid the vast majority of the cost of Trump’s tariffs.
While tariffs benefited some workers in import-competing industries, they hurt workers in sectors that rely on imported inputs and those in exporting industries facing retaliation from trade partners.
Trump’s tariffs did not help the U.S. negotiate better trade agreements or significantly improve national security.
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The Trump administration has repeatedly argued that foreign companies are paying for tariffs. But multiple studies suggest this is not the case: the cost of tariffs have been borne almost entirely by American households and American firms, not foreign exporters. While estimates vary, economic analyses suggest the average American household has paid somewhere from several hundred up to a thousand dollars or more per year thanks to higher consumer prices attributable to the tariffs.
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And the bit immediately after your quote seems put more meat on the statement
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In general, then, Trump’s tariffs have helped some workers and hurt others.
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Where it states
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Yet, overall, when economists have attempted to add up the net effect of Trump’s tariffs on jobs, any gains in importing-competing sectors appear to have been more than offset by losses in industries that use imported inputs and face retaliation on their foreign exports. And even those jobs that have been created have come at great cost: studies suggest American consumers paid about $817,000 in higher prices attributable to the tariffs for every job created in the washing machine industry and $900,000 in the steel industry.
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08-10-2024, 21:46
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Re: US Election 2024
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You don’t think that the US judiciary has been hijacked and weaponised to try and jail Trump?
Baaaaa!
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I thought the rest of the text gave a more nuanced view…
And the bit immediately after your quote seems put more meat on the statement
Where it states
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All completely fair.
But
If it was the U.K. would I accept paying more for various things if it meant we kept our manufacturing base and skills and not become reliant on other states which could dictate prices in the future.
Probably.
If setting tariffs, keeps your industry and skills but costs a few quid ….then that’s a trade off you have explain and justify.
I’d happily pay a premium to keep U.K. industry and skills.
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08-10-2024, 22:39
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Re: US Election 2024
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You don’t think that the US judiciary has been hijacked and weaponised to try and jail Trump?
Baaaaa!
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To jail him for the crimes he's committed you mean, how deep in the cult are you to belive he is the victim? Some of the cases started whilst he was still president and are in state courts, tried by judges he appointed and its still not enough to convince you, bet you buy his crappy nft's and trading cards
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11-10-2024, 15:20
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Re: US Election 2024
I was having tea at my sons yesterday and my granddaughter declared she hopes kamala harris wins the election,when i asked why she answered because Donald Trump tells lies ,she's only 6 years old, kids seem to be so tuned in these days 
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11-10-2024, 15:52
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Re: US Election 2024
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13-10-2024, 21:27
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Re: US Election 2024
Third possible Trump assassination attempt thwarted when armed man arrested outside Coachella rally, sheriff says
https://nypost.com/2024/10/13/us-new...-sheriff-says/
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13-10-2024, 22:55
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Re: US Election 2024
Probably not, considering he’s been released on bail…
https://www.thetimes.com/article/38f...8347ea6bd5e0c1
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Miller considered himself a “sovereign citizen”, a voter who believes they are not subject to a law unless they have consented to it. He was said to be a registered Republican who ran for the Nevada state assembly in 2022, and holds a master’s degree from the University of California, Los Angeles. Miller was released on bail to appear in court in January.
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13-10-2024, 23:14
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Re: US Election 2024
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I was having tea at my sons yesterday and my granddaughter declared she hopes kamala harris wins the election,when i asked why she answered because Donald Trump tells lies ,she's only 6 years old, kids seem to be so tuned in these days |
Congratulations on having such a wise grand daughter. 
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14-10-2024, 14:26
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Re: US Election 2024
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I was having tea at my sons yesterday and my granddaughter declared she hopes kamala harris wins the election,when i asked why she answered because Donald Trump tells lies ,she's only 6 years old, kids seem to be so tuned in these days |
NOT arguing but which doesnt 
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14-10-2024, 15:02
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Re: US Election 2024
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NOT arguing but which doesnt |
i can't think of one
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23-10-2024, 08:47
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Re: US Election 2024
Trump's team accuses Labour of election interference
The complaint cites media reports about meetings between Labour and the Harris campaign, as well as volunteering efforts by Labour activists in the US.
US law states foreign nationals can't be paid to take part in campaign activity.
The Trump campaign's complaint points to a LinkedIn post from Sofia Patel, Labour's head of operations, in which she said nearly 100 current and former staff members would be going to the US.
The post said there were "10 spots available" for anyone who wanted to join them and that "we will sort your housing".
Starmer interfering what a shock
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c1jrld1kjp3t
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23-10-2024, 08:56
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Re: US Election 2024
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Starmer interfering what a shock |
Not sure Starmer has been interfering, he's got enough on his hands in the UK to keep him busy!
I'm not particularly comfortable with foreign nationals helping out in election campaigns even if they are volunteers.
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23-10-2024, 09:14
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Re: US Election 2024
Quite common in the 80’s and 90’s - I knew quite a few Young Conservatives who travelled over to volunteer in the Reagan and Bush Snr election campaigns…
Not sure Trump wants to open up the Pandora’s Box of foreign countries interfering in US elections… 
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23-10-2024, 09:20
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Re: US Election 2024
I'm unsure why the democrats would need, or want, 100 soppy Brits to go over and assist in their campaign but I don't see an issue with it as long as they're doing everything correctly.
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23-10-2024, 11:23
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Re: US Election 2024
UK parties have been sending volunteers over to help with elections for years. It's not new and it's certainly not interference, Trump is that confused he doesn't know the meaning of the word.
No different than Farage or anyone that promoted him in recent years.
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