General : Virgin Media & UKTV+ITV Channels

[japitts]

Originally Posted by Mr K

More choice the better, OB as we agreed earlier? Your dross, is somebodies must see. Your must see, is somebody else's dross.

However think most agree the replacement channels are dross.

Also pay-TV is supposed to all be about choice, and Virgin have certainly positioned TiVo as a "one-stop shop" for all your home entertainment. And then in the next breath they're actively suggesting you use Freeview to access some popular channels.

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by Paul M

That seems very petty on their part.

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Ah, I see, thanks.

So from my POV, they have simply replaced one set of junk channels I never watch, with another set I would also never watch.

Seems a lot of fuss over nothing.

Exactly my POV.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by Paul M

That seems very petty on their part.

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Ah, I see, thanks.

So from my POV, they have simply replaced one set of junk channels I never watch, with another set I would also never watch.

Seems a lot of fuss over nothing.

Each to their own. The fact of the matter is your paying the same amount for a lot less content. Admittedly it might not be content you watch but for others it's a big deal.

Here's how the last deal between UKTV was confirmed, purely for reference purposes.

http://www.virginmedia.com/corporate...customers.html

[dodgem22]

If only they could just do a deal. Gutted having to look elsewhere now it really does not look like this will be resolved any time soon.

[Inactive Digital]

Originally Posted by Chad

Each to their own. The fact of the matter is your paying the same amount for a lot less content. Admittedly it might not be content you watch but for others it's a big deal.

Here's how the last deal between UKTV was confirmed, purely for reference purposes.

http://www.virginmedia.com/corporate...customers.html

That press release clearly states BBC series available on demand. So UKTV are now providing less content but are not happy that VM are offering less money as a result.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Chad

Each to their own. The fact of the matter is your paying the same amount for a lot less content. Admittedly it might not be content you watch but for others it's a big deal.

Here's how the last deal between UKTV was confirmed, purely for reference purposes.

http://www.virginmedia.com/corporate...customers.html

"Virgin Media is one of our most valued customers", bet they're not saying that right now

You know, I actually think that it's a possibility that all this might have been orchestrated by John Malone to try and protect the shares that Discovery have in UKTV by putting off potential buyers of the shares that the BBC can't afford to buy in the company, thus scuppering the planned majority shareholding that the BBC are planning.

[heavyside]

Isn't this a classic case of there being no winners, only losers. UKTV lose out on advertising revenue generated from 4 million potential viewers which makes their plea of 'we need the revenue from Virgin to be able to make new programmes' sound hollow. Virgin Media lose out on a powerful chunk of good will from their subscribers out of all proportion to the sums of money they are trying to save. But surely the biggest losers of all are those same potential viewers and subscribers who are, incidentally, the group least able to do anything to resolve this sorry state of affairs.

This is NOT the Brexit discussion..Use the correct thread.

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Oh and to purloin the title of an old children's show Why not turn off your TV and go do something less boring instead.

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Anymore off topic posts WILL be removed.

[Dave42]

don't look thing will be getting sorted for long time

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Hey Alexander, unfortunately, resolving things with Virgin Media is looking extremely unlikely. All of our channels are still available on @SkyUK, @bt_uk and @TalkTalk. We’d hate to lose you as a loyal viewer.

[tweetiepooh]

Originally Posted by heavyside

Isn't this a classic case of there being no winners, only losers. UKTV lose out on advertising revenue generated from 4 million potential viewers which makes their plea of 'we need the revenue from Virgin to be able to make new programmes' sound hollow. Virgin Media lose out on a powerful chunk of good will from their subscribers out of all proportion to the sums of money they are trying to save. But surely the biggest losers of all are those same potential viewers and subscribers who are, incidentally, the group least able to do anything to resolve this sorry state of affairs.

I'm sorry but I bet there are some lawyers somewhere making profit out of this!

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by heavyside

Isn't this a classic case of there being no winners, only losers. UKTV lose out on advertising revenue generated from 4 million potential viewers which makes their plea of 'we need the revenue from Virgin to be able to make new programmes' sound hollow. Virgin Media lose out on a powerful chunk of good will from their subscribers out of all proportion to the sums of money they are trying to save. But surely the biggest losers of all are those same potential viewers and subscribers who are, incidentally, the group least able to do anything to resolve this sorry state of affairs.

They can always change providers, downgrade or negotiate a discount. I've negotiated a discount from VM & UKTV, so for the first 3 months getting back the UKTV channels would cost me £1 per month.

If I decide to keep with this arrangement after 3 months it would be £5 a month. After 6 months the full cost of £8 a month would apply.

If the UKTV channels are to come back soon, it will probably be in the first 3 months, so after 3 months I'll be looking to downgrade to the free M/Player pack.

This, coupled with the newly sourced UKTV channels, will be enough to meet my needs. In order to try and keep customers, VM have moved some channels downwards. This has had the effect of further devaluing the XL/Full house pack.

This will work out cheaper and VM get less money from me. If I move to Sky, I will get my faulty satellite wiring replaced free of charge and a hefty new customer discount. A win win situation all round!

Sky are currently advertising offers to Virgin Media customers where they will pay some or all VM early cancellation fees* and a hefty discount for changing too.

* If VM don't agree to waive these early cancellation fees, keep a record of them and watch out for the Ofcom decision regarding whether the removal of the UKTV channels was a breach of contract or not.

If they decide it was, you will then be able to claim back the fees from VM too!

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Aw Wayne, we're so sorry - we want to be your "go to" channels again, but sadly it's looking unlikely that we will be returning to Virgin Media.
We'd love to make you laugh again, so we'd advise trying @SkyUK @bt_uk and @TalkTalkTV who still have all of our channels.

[Media Boy UK]

UKTV was crying on BBC Radio 4 The Media Show today and the host says "UKTV part own by BBC"

[japitts]

https://twitter.com/Ofcom/status/1022136683104481282

Mediation by a different name?

[denphone]

My view of Ofcom from their past history is that they are pretty toothless generally.