The 2017 General Election

Does that make BOTH the Conservatives and Labour hypocrites?

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Damien

Does that make BOTH the Conservatives and Labour hypocrites?

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

Possibly all polititians

Agreed on that.

I have already said the link with DUP and Terrorists is weak, the group DUP was only tied to, UR, for only a year, was ON our side, but they did not kill anybody, they just armed themselves, illegally during the IRA uprising era, we all know the IRA did kill people, big difference !

There are concerns that many University Students were able to vote TWICE in the General Election. There are some parents claiming their son/daughter was able to vote TWICE.

A Petition has appeared demanding an investigation be carried out because some Constituencies results were extremely tight.

https://www.change.org/p/uk-electora...cation=minibar

My Daughter studying at Oxford was given the opportunity to vote twice, it is a scandal

Duncan Mansfield, Manningtree, United Kingdom 16 hrs ago

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

I have already said the link with DUP and Terrorists is weak, the group DUP was only tied to, UR, for only a year, was ON our side, but they did not kill anybody, they just armed themselves, illegally during the IRA uprising era, we all know the IRA did kill people.

There a concerns that many University Students were able to vote TWICE in the General Election. There are some parents claiming their son/daughter was able to vote TWICE.

A Petition has appeared demanding an investigation be carried out because some Consistences results were extremely tight.

https://www.change.org/p/uk-electora...cation=minibar

Students can register to vote both at home and at their place of study, nothing wrong with that. Of course they can only vote one one place in a general election (bizarrely in local elections they can vote in both). Think some Tory parents are grasping at straws... People moan when students don't vote , now they're moaning that they have had the cheek to vote !

As for the DUP and terrorist links there are many. Some are being very two faced about this given the amount of grief Corbyn got for doing the same thing as the British Govt. was doing at the time.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

But the DUP and the British public don't want it. Hard Brexit is dead Mick, even soft Brexit isn't guaranteed. Keep the faith Mick if it makes you happy

If a hard Brexit means leaving the single market? Then over 80% of the country voted for it.

Leaving the single market is both Tory and Labour policy.

[tweetiepooh]

When I was at uni I could have voted in two places as I had cards for both home and uni, too far to travel between 2 safe seats though to be worth it. Would be really hard to spot that though and could work both ways though most students will tend to the left. It's only us older folk that have things to tax that start leaning more rightwards.

Originally Posted by Mr K

People moan when students don't vote , now they're moaning that they have had the cheek to vote !

Totally misrepresented what was said.

Nothing wrong with Students voting, that's good, but they have the same entitlement as everyone else, one vote ONLY. It's nothing to do with having any cheek FFS.

Originally Posted by Mr K

As for the DUP and terrorist links there are many. Some are being very two faced about this given the amount of grief Corbyn got for doing the same thing as the British Govt. was doing at the time.

Corbyn has not done the same as British Government, far from it.

Other issue here is, he's prancing about along with his Momentum cohorts, like he's made a real difference. While he needs bringing down a peg or two and reminded no-one won overall.

Tories won heaps of more seats than he did. But if there is weight to this cheating of university students voting twice claim and thousands of students exploited this, then it adds to the question about the validity of the overall General Election results, there were many seats Labour took that had very low majorities.

Originally Posted by Mr K

But the DUP and the British public don't want it. Hard Brexit is dead Mick, even soft Brexit isn't guaranteed. Keep the faith Mick if it makes you happy

Labour Party policy is to end freedom of movement. Absent an unprecedented concession from the EU, membership of the single market is tied to freedom of movement.

I'm not sure what planet you've been on for the last 30 years but Corbyn has always been against the EU. His performance in the referendum campaign demonstrates that whatever he may say to the contrary, he is still against it.

We are leaving the EU by the only route available. Out of the single market, out of the customs union, out of the free movement agreement.

There is no such thing as hard or soft Brexit. There is either leaving the EU, or not leaving it. Retaining Freedom of movement (no immigration control), Prevention of independent trade deals (the customs union) and supervision of all of the above by the ECJ while surrendering our seats in the Council and the Parliament (what some call "soft" Brexit) amount to *not* leaving the EU at all.

Originally Posted by Chris

I'm not sure what planet you've been on for the last 30 years but Corbyn has always been against the EU. His performance in the referendum campaign demonstrates that whatever he may say to the contrary, he is still against it.

Chris, Mr K is not on any other planet, he is in that great Egyptian river, they call De-Nile.

By voting twice she probably means in both leadership elections

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Especially considering she said people then said she had killed they killed the labour partt

Originally Posted by Damien

By voting twice she probably means in both leadership elections

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Especially considering she said people then said she had killed they killed the labour partt

Maybe so but I'm seeing a handful of tweets from people who appear to be students bragging they got to vote twice in this election.

Report them to the police, it's illegal

I dont understand why its allowed (double registration).

Surely they can just use postal votes if they are away from home.

[ianch99]

I think you are clutching at straws if you think Labour did as well as they did because of students voting twice ..

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Originally Posted by Chris

Labour Party policy is to end freedom of movement. Absent an unprecedented concession from the EU, membership of the single market is tied to freedom of movement.

I'm not sure what planet you've been on for the last 30 years but Corbyn has always been against the EU. His performance in the referendum campaign demonstrates that whatever he may say to the contrary, he is still against it.

We are leaving the EU by the only route available. Out of the single market, out of the customs union, out of the free movement agreement.

There is no such thing as hard or soft Brexit. There is either leaving the EU, or not leaving it. Retaining Freedom of movement (no immigration control), Prevention of independent trade deals (the customs union) and supervision of all of the above by the ECJ while surrendering our seats in the Council and the Parliament (what some call "soft" Brexit) amount to *not* leaving the EU at all.

I don't often agree with Chris but he is spot on: Corbyn (and this is one of the main reasons I did not vote for him) is that he was a pathetic leader of the Remain campaign. In fact, I would go as far to say that I think he actually voted Leave ..

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Originally Posted by Mick

I have already said the link with DUP and Terrorists is weak, the group DUP was only tied to, UR, for only a year, was ON our side, but they did not kill anybody, they just armed themselves, illegally during the IRA uprising era, we all know the IRA did kill people, big difference !

I would say their associations with Protestant terrorists leave them open to justified criticism:

No DUP apology for Ulster Resistance, despite gun-running leading to murders

The DUP has insisted that it has consistently opposed law-breaking, following fresh revelations about how a paramilitary group founded by party members had worked with the UVF and UDA to import guns which were subsequently used to murder people. The Police Ombudsman’s 157-page report into the Loughinisland atrocity, published last week, contains details which reveal that the guns used in that attack were imported into Northern Ireland by Ulster Resistance

The Ombudsman’s report into the Loughinisland atrocity states that guns which Ulster Resistance helped import were used in at least 70 murders and attempted murders.

DUP chief Arlene Foster met UDA boss days after loyalist murder in Bangor

Arlene Foster has defended meeting a UDA chief within 48 hours of the loyalist feud murder in Bangor of Colin Horner in front of his three-year-old son.

The DUP leader yesterday admitted meeting UDA boss Jackie McDonald in south Belfast. The Ulster Political Research Group, which provides political advice to the UDA, yesterday endorsed the DUP's Emma Little Pengelly for the South Belfast constituency.