Russia has invaded Ukraine

[thenry]

Originally Posted by pip08456

No one quoted my post except you, I and I'm sure Chris would like to know what meant by what you said.

I didn't say Chris post had your quote in

Ukrainians are effectively screaming at themselves then by being put on the lines of battle against their former selves.

Originally Posted by thenry

I didn't say Chris post had your quote in

Ukrainians are effectively screaming at themselves then by being put on the lines of battle against their former selves.

No, they are not - they are fighting the Russians (and North Koreans), not other Ukrainians

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Hugh

No, they are not - they are fighting the Russians (and North Koreans), not other Ukrainians

pip08456 said Ukrainian kids are being put on the front line to battle Ukrainians. Did you read pip08456 post?

Also Chinese are in there

https://www.economist.com/china/2025...ing-in-ukraine

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1wdd228953o

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by thenry

pip08456 said Ukrainian kids are being put on the front line to battle Ukrainians. Did you read pip08456 post?

Also Chinese are in there

https://www.economist.com/china/2025...ing-in-ukraine

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1wdd228953o

Wrong, I never said that. Try reading posts instead if skimming over them and making an incorret assumption.

[thenry]

Originally Posted by pip08456

Wrong, I never said that. Try reading posts instead if skimming over them and making an incorret assumption.

How is this a me problem if you're saying or quoting other people may be you and Hugh and Chris, may be even Andrew find a quiet spot and discuss jfman

Originally Posted by pip08456

Acceoted and proved by yourself. Needless sodiers killed by Ukraine? What are those soldiers there for other than to killl Ukrainians?

Surely to save Ukrainian deaths by Russian forces, the more they kill the more the Ukranians are saved?

What do you expect Ukraine to do, lie back and expect the genocide that Russia wants to inflice on them?

jfman commended the Russians for evacuating (kidnapping) childen form areas under thier control but failed to mention that they have put the young ones up for adoption to be brought up as Russians who will grow up joining the army to fight against their own people.

Older ones are sent to schools where they learn how to be cannon fodder for the Russian federation. https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-prepa.../33217789.html.

I can understand Ukraine teaching thier children survival tactics during a war and maybe joining the armed forces when they are old enough if they wish, but for Russia to be doing it to Ukrainian children...

Putin does not recognise Ukraine as an independant state and wants to crush it and bring it back under Russian control. Having actually been there and met and made many friends there I can tell you they won't accept that. Until Russia leaves Ukraine they will fight.

Originally Posted by thenry

pip08456 said Ukrainian kids are being put on the front line to battle Ukrainians. Did you read pip08456 post?

Also Chinese are in there

https://www.economist.com/china/2025...ing-in-ukraine

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1wdd228953o

Everyone except you realised that the "needless soldiers" pip was talking about were Russian, in response to your post about needsless soldiers being killed by the Ukrainians…

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Everyone except you realised that the "needless soldiers" pip was talking about were Russian, in response to your post about needsless soldiers being killed by the Ukrainians…

Understood but it brings me to repost my original post

Originally Posted by thenry

Does Trump condemn Ukrainian strikes? A strike is a strike regardless who started it!

regardless who started it.

If you want to play judge go for it. I don't want to play with ill-fated choices.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by thenry

Understood but it brings me to repost my original post



regardless who started it.

If you want to play judge go for it. I don't want to play with ill-fated choices.

Not to judge but as Russia invaded Ukraine then they started it surely.

[thenry]

Russia has accusations of Ukraine.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by thenry

Russia has accusations of Ukraine.

Accusations of what? Don't forget Ukraine was no threat to Russia.

[thenry]

I don't have the list. It was reported when the conflict kicked off. Russia was accusing Ukraine of all sorts. Maybe someone can help an idiot like me of those threats to Russia.

Originally Posted by thenry

Russia has accusations of Ukraine.

Can you not proof read your stuff before you hit post? Several of your contributions here this afternoon make no grammatical sense whatsoever.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2738787.html

President Donald Trump on Thursday said Russia’s failure to forcibly seize and occupy the entirety of Ukraine’s territory amounts to a “pretty big concession” to Kyiv as he continues to push for Russia and Ukraine to come to a settlement to end the war Moscow started three years ago.

Speaking in the Oval Office during a bilateral meeting with Norwegian prime minister Jonas Gahr Støre, Trump insisted to reporters that he is putting pressure on Russian president Vladimir Putin behind the scenes as reporters asked him what he would ask the Russian leader to give up to match the massive territorial concessions he has asked Ukraine to make as a way to find an end to Europe’s bloodiest conflict since the end of the Second World War.

Trump replied: “Stopping the war, stopping [from] taking the whole country.”

He added that not seizing all of the Ukraine’s sovereign land — the goal Putin had laid out when he launched the war in February 2022 and which was foiled by Ukraine’s military resistance — was a “pretty big concession” in his view.

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...-april-23-2025

Russian officials rejected aspects of Trump's reported peace plan. Russian Federation Council Chairperson Valentina Matvienko stated on April 23 that Russia will "never participate" in any negotiations that discuss the possible deployment of European troops to Ukraine and that such a deployment is "unacceptable" to Russia, regardless of whether the peacekeeping forces deploy under the NATO framework or another "flag."[18] Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov gave an interview to French news magazine Le Point published on April 23 and similarly rejected the prospect of European peacekeepers in Ukraine.[19] Peskov stated that Russia rejected the full ceasefire that Trump previously proposed because the ceasefire failed to meet all of Russia's demands, including that Ukraine cede all of Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhia oblasts — all of which Russia has illegally declared annexed. Peskov claimed that the entirety of these four oblasts were "enshrined in our [Russian] Constitution as an integral part of Russia" and that the "war will end immediately" if Ukraine withdraws from these oblasts. Russian state-run and pro-Kremlin media outlets amplified Peskov's statements, as well as statements from other pro-Kremlin mouthpieces calling on Russia to refuse to give up any part of the four Ukrainian oblasts included in the Russian Constitution — in violation of international law and numerous treaties Russia previously signed with Ukraine.[20]

Russian officials continue to give no indication that the Kremlin is willing to make any concessions of its own. Peskov has reiterated multiple times in the past weeks — including on April 23 — that details about peace proposals should not be publicly available, likely as part of efforts to keep the precise terms obfuscated in hopes of further delaying negotiations and extracting concessions.[21] Russian officials have reiterated the Kremlin's demands in recent weeks, including Russia's rejection of European peacekeepers deploying to Ukraine, refusal to withdraw from any parts of occupied Ukraine, and territorial claims over areas of Ukraine that Russia does not currently occupy.[22] Russian state media recently amplified Kherson Oblast occupation head Vladimir Saldo's call for additional Russian territorial control along the Dnipro River in Kherson, Zaporizhia, and Dnipropetrovsk oblasts — including areas that Russian forces would have to withdraw from under the reported US proposal.

Russia has no interest in peace at all, they'll just keep going, at least until Putin dies.

[GrimUpNorth]

Vlad is playing Don like a big orange fiddle.