Post-Brexit Thread - Page 225

pip08456 · 19-12-2016, 19:00

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

The leave side didn't take this to the high court, remain did (Gina Miller). Leave aren't proposing terms that are identical to us staying in, in all but name, remain are (Nick Clegg). Leave aren't trying to get the govt to disclose it's thinking and planning prematurely, leave are.
Who's provoking who?

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Article 50 may have already been triggered

I'd be careful Ramrod IIRC the hairdresser was a Brexetee but I can't find where I saw that.

Gina Miller only put her name on it as the lead complainant to promote herself and her (joint with husband) own company profile.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-mr-hedge-fund

1andrew1 · 19-12-2016, 19:03

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

The leave side didn't take this to the high court, remain did (Gina Miller). Leave aren't proposing terms that are identical to us staying in, in all but name, remain are (Nick Clegg). Leave aren't trying to get the govt to disclose it's thinking and planning prematurely, leave are.
Who's provoking who?

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Article 50 may have already been triggered

So much wrong there but I'll just point out one thing. Leave voter Deir Dos Santos took the legal case against Article 50 as well as others including Gina Miller.

papa smurf · 19-12-2016, 19:11

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

So much wrong there but I'll just point out one thing. Leave voter Deir Dos Santos took the legal case against Article 50 as well as others including Gina Miller.

and just how exactly do we know how he voted did any one else see the ballot paper

http://uk.businessinsider.com/jo-mau...rnment-2016-12

The man behind a fresh Brexit legal case says there is ample evidence to suggest that the UK government has already triggered Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty.
"If you look at the terms of Article 50 itself, one of the terms is there has to be a decision and there has to be notification. The government's position is there has been a decision. So, what you're left with is the requirement that there be notification. We know that in October Theresa May met with her fellow leaders at an EU council meeting and told them we were leaving. Now, there's no requirement in Article 50 that notification must be served on heavy watermarked paper. There is no requirement for formality at all.

"If you then cast your net more widely and you look around at the surrounding circumstances, you can see that the EU are now meeting privately without us. Article 50 says this is something that is not supposed to happen until after we have triggered it. If you look at the fact that the EU has appointed negotiators — that's something that's not supposed to happen until after we have triggered Article 50. If you look at the fact they've formulated their negotiating strategy — that's something that shouldn't happen until after you trigger Article 50.

i like the sound of that Ramrod

1andrew1 · 19-12-2016, 19:23

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

and just how exactly do we know how he voted did any one else see the ballot paper

We know the same way that we know how Gina Miller voted.

papa smurf · 19-12-2016, 19:30

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

We know the same way that we know how Gina Miller voted.

the same we we know i voted remain

19-12-2016, 19:38

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

and just how exactly do we know how he voted did any one else see the ballot paper

Well you seemed to know exactly how he voted back in post 3225

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

i like the sound of that Ramrod

Strange ....a few pages back you accused him of trying to stop Brexit with his court case ...now you have actually read the story you approve

papa smurf · 19-12-2016, 19:47

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Originally Posted by martyh

Well you seemed to know exactly how he voted back in post 3225

post 3225 i see no mention of him

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Strange ....a few pages back you accused him of trying to stop Brexit with his court case ...now you have actually read the story you approve

post 3225 i see no mention of him

i accused or the newspaper did

**Damien** · 19-12-2016, 20:05

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Originally Posted by Ramrod

The leave side didn't take this to the high court, remain did (Gina Miller). Leave aren't proposing terms that are identical to us staying in, in all but name, remain are (Nick Clegg). Leave aren't trying to get the govt to disclose it's thinking and planning prematurely, leave are.
Who's provoking who?

I think it wouldn't be needed if it wasn't for this attitude that almost half the country should have no say in any Brexit agreement. As I said this is a deal which will impact everyone and decides a lot of the future of the country. The idea only May gets to decide what future is what a lot of people, including many Leavers, object too.

And you will too if it turns out you don't like the deal. What if it becomes the type of Brexit Boris wanted instead of the kind of deal Farage wants? The EU are already having public press conferences about their end, it's not all going to fall apart to give us some idea of the rough direction we're going.

After all it appears she is willing to brief and make assurances to Nissan. Parliament should have that right too.

Ramrod · 19-12-2016, 20:57

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

So much wrong there

Like what?

pip08456 · 19-12-2016, 22:39

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Originally Posted by Damien

The idea only May gets to decide what future is what a lot of people, including many Leavers, object too.

Who's idea is that and if it is only an idea....

How many leavers are you lumping into your "idea"?

1andrew1 · 19-12-2016, 22:45

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Who's idea is that and if it is only an idea....

How many leavers are you lumping into your "idea"?

It's an idea and any leavers who understand British democracy will object too.

pip08456 · 19-12-2016, 22:59

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It's an idea and any leavers who understand British democracy will object too.

Well that answered the question didn't it!

Now we can object to ideas!

19-12-2016, 23:02

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

post 3225 i see no mention of him

i accused or the newspaper did

Are you seriously expecting people to believe you don't share the views of rag you keep posting from .Of course if you don't then now is your chance to set the record straight on your views regarding the various court cases and what you would like to see from the negotiations.

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Who's idea is that and if it is only an idea....

How many leavers are you lumping into your "idea"?

It's the idea of all those who think Parliament should have no say and judging by this forum it's the idea of most leavers

pip08456 · 19-12-2016, 23:06

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Originally Posted by martyh

It's the idea of all those who think Parliament should have no say and judging by this forum it's the idea of most leavers

Not at all, I certainly didn't say that.

papa smurf · 19-12-2016, 23:09

[QUOTE=martyh;35876690]Are you seriously expecting people to believe you don't share the views of rag you keep posting from .Of course if you don't then now is your chance to set the record straight on your views regarding the various court cases and what you would like to see from the negotiations.[COLOR="Silver"]

you accused me either put up your evidence or shut up