Football Season 2014/15 - Page 221

TheDaddy · 17-05-2015, 20:32

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Originally Posted by iadom

As is the premise that Gerrard played in poor teams, he played alongside some of the best strikers in the Premiership, Owen, Fowler, Suarez etc. To only manage just over 100 assists with forwards like that must say something. And the original premise was that Gerrard was the best player in the 'Premiership', in fact he saved his best moments for the FA Cup ( v West Ham ) and Champions League in Istanbul.

Apart from a few brief flourishes like last season ( and he blew that ) he can't have done that well in the league or Liverpool would have done better than they have. He is a great player but is a long way from the best ever Premiership player, IMHO of course.

How do you judge assists Jim, final pass before a goal or the defence splitting pass that sets up the opportunity for that pass? He also played with some of the worst strikers the league has ever seen baros diouf Dundee mellor just of the top of my head, I'm sure denphone will be able to add to the list of abysmal strikers

iadom · 17-05-2015, 20:49

Well on that point I would wager that Scholes, Fabregas and one or two more would rank higher on the defence splitting pass table.

For what it is worth Shearer would get my vote as the best outfield player in the history of the Premiership.

**Damien** · 17-05-2015, 22:11

If United do finish 4th (i.e Arsenal don't lose the next two games) will they be in the unseeded part of the draw? Their UEFA coefficient would have taken quite a battering from their absence last year and poor performance the year before. The play-off is difficult even for the seeded teams.

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy

How do you judge assists Jim, final pass before a goal or the defence splitting pass that sets up the opportunity for that pass? He also played with some of the worst strikers the league has ever seen baros diouf Dundee mellor just of the top of my head, I'm sure denphone will be able to add to the list of abysmal strikers

Problem I found with Gerrard is that he attempted those defence splitting passes a lot more than Fabregas or Scholes would and had a lot of failed attempts. He always struck me as the 'hollywood' type of player going for the ambitious and dramatic when playing with more caution and patience would have been better. The end result is that he conceded the ball far more than should be expected of 'the best midfielder in the league'

thenry · 17-05-2015, 22:20

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Originally Posted by Damien

If United do finish 4th (i.e Arsenal don't lose the next two games) will they be in the unseeded part of the draw? Their UEFA coefficient would have taken quite a battering from their absence last year and poor performance the year before. The play-off is difficult even for the seeded teams.

this article explains...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...lay-Round.html

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todays game could have been worse. i feared another defeat!

iadom · 17-05-2015, 23:00

Uniteds poor performance the year before, they reached the quarter finals.��

MalteseFalcon · 17-05-2015, 23:04

Should have been a United win IMO, Arsenal very fortunate with the own goal.

TheDaddy · 17-05-2015, 23:07

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Originally Posted by iadom

Well on that point I would wager that Scholes, Fabregas and one or two more would rank higher on the defence splitting pass table.

For what it is worth Shearer would get my vote as the best outfield player in the history of the Premiership.

They probably would but then they lack the ability to tackle, head and drive the game the way Gerrard did. He is the most complete player and therefore imo best player we've seen, he scored goals nearly as well as lampard, passed nearly as well as Scholes, tackled nearly as well as Keane and ran about nearly as much as Robson. Shearer was the best strikers imo but it's all subjective and everyone has their own opinions on it.

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Originally Posted by Damien

If United do finish 4th (i.e Arsenal don't lose the next two games) will they be in the unseeded part of the draw? Their UEFA coefficient would have taken quite a battering from their absence last year and poor performance the year before. The play-off is difficult even for the seeded teams.

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Problem I found with Gerrard is that he attempted those defence splitting passes a lot more than Fabregas or Scholes would and had a lot of failed attempts. He always struck me as the 'hollywood' type of player going for the ambitious and dramatic when playing with more caution and patience would have been better. The end result is that he conceded the ball far more than should be expected of 'the best midfielder in the league'

He has had the air of Hollywood about him in the last year or so no doubt so much so he's new club could be the perfect place for him

Dave42 · 18-05-2015, 00:50

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Originally Posted by Damien

We now need 2 points, maybe only 1, to secure automatic qualification for the Champions League. The qualifying teams have become harder recently.

a point will do both teams good on Wednesday

denphone · 18-05-2015, 05:24

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a point will do both teams good on Wednesday

l think you can come out from behind the sofa now Dave.

denphone · 19-05-2015, 05:26

Well make sure you shut the door properly on your way out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32789389

thenry · 19-05-2015, 14:11

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Originally Posted by denphone

Well make sure you shut the door properly on your way out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32789389

Walcott for Sterling ?

denphone · 19-05-2015, 14:12

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Originally Posted by thenry

Walcott for Sterling ?

Is he ever fit?.

Julian · 19-05-2015, 14:22

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Originally Posted by denphone

Well make sure you shut the door properly on your way out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32789389

Blame his idiot agent.

He's doing the same thing with Berahino.

thenry · 19-05-2015, 14:26

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Originally Posted by denphone

Is he ever fit?.

Have Liverpool got any better realistic picks of players?

denphone · 19-05-2015, 14:30

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Originally Posted by Julian

Blame his idiot agent.

He's doing the same thing with Berahino.

As far as l am concerned l regard agents as blood leeches of the game.

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Originally Posted by thenry

Have Liverpool got any better realistic picks of players?

l asked the question but you did not answer it.

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Originally Posted by thenry

Have Liverpool got any better realistic picks of players?

We have plenty of young players who l am sure would like to step up to the plate to replace those who think the grass is greener on the other side.