TiVo BBC Red Button - Page 22

David H · 03-10-2012, 17:47

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

No digital service is compatible with 'teletext'. However some other services currently have more text on their interactive services than the BBC apps do on TiVo.
When that changes is down to the BBC

"More" text? We have none at all so I'm not sure where you're coming from there. Secondly you are contradicting an earlier post (I'm not scrolling pages to find it) which blamed the software on the Tivo, which was the best in the world but American, so didn't 'fit' our text system. Now you are handing that back to the BBC, which is physically impossible as they have always had the identical Freetext service as it was introduced with Freeview. As we do not receive the Freeview channels then whatever other goodies came along with them were also absent, and secondly that can't be true as even ITV still have advertising on their teletext service like they did when they dropped the news from the analogue text.

"Teletext really That is a blast from the past."

No, that's Ceefax. What do you call news available on the red button on Sky and Freeview in text form? I thought teletext was the generic term, is there another one?

BenMcr · 03-10-2012, 17:50

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Originally Posted by David H

"More" text? We have none at all so I'm not sure where you're coming from there.

There is text news in the BBC News app

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/help-17655000

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Should viewers want to read text articles they can press Up again from here [the info/video panel] to see a list of categories. These can be navigated/selected with Up/Down/OK.

When viewers choose a category the carousel will be updated with text content.

When viewers choose an article it will be displayed in the foreground while video continues to play in the background. A smaller info panel on the right shows information about the content shown in the video layer.

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Secondly you are contradicting an earlier post (I'm not scrolling pages to find it) which blamed the software on the Tivo, which was the best in the world but American, so didn't 'fit' our text system.

There isn't a single 'text' system. Freeview and Freesat use one system, Sky use another, and the V boxes use a different one again. The BBC wrote the services on each of the those systems to look the same, but they are technically different.

What TiVo couldn't originally do is the whole concept of 'Red Button' but that was introduced last year and updated at the beginning of this, and Sky have been using it for their Sports interactive service for months

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I thought teletext was the generic term, is there another one?

teletext was the generic term for analogue text system. The generic term for Digital services has become 'Red Button' but that covers multiple technologies

denphone · 03-10-2012, 18:00

When are we going to get text news on the sports app Ben?.

BenMcr · 03-10-2012, 18:02

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Originally Posted by denphone

When are we going to get text news on the sports app Ben?.

Honest answer is whenever the BBC decide to it

denphone · 03-10-2012, 18:08

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Originally Posted by BenMcr

Honest answer is whenever the BBC decide to it

Thanks Ben and l for one apportion no blame to Virgin on this but l do wish BBC would start to get its skates on as regards the BBC sports app because as it stands it is like a skeleton without half its bones at the moment.

andy_m · 03-10-2012, 18:34

IPad app? Virgin should just launch it even if not fully ready and update along the way.

BBC red button for TiVo? Why have they launched this unfinished piece of crap?

passingbat · 03-10-2012, 18:57

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Originally Posted by denphone

but l do wish BBC would start to get its skates on as regards the BBC sports app because as it stands it is like a skeleton without half its bones at the moment.

Speak to the people who effectively cut the BBC's budget!

David H · 03-10-2012, 20:06

Definite development, I can now access the news index, but when I select a category it just sent me back to the video clip. But I expect the presence of it implies a step towards written content. Is it a transitional stage or have I missed a step, or is it faulty?

As far as red button's concerned there is still another text button on the Tivo remote, so was clearly built to do that as well. And finally Freeview has text/red button on non-BBC channels, any chance we'll ever get any as well?

amarkr · 03-10-2012, 21:24

There are text articles in the BBC News App but its not obvious they are there or how to get at them.

Load the app from the apps section or the red button on a bbc tv (or radio) channel, press up to get the bar with the video thumbnails, then up again to get a drop down menu of categories which you can then browse to text stories. More instructions at the link below

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/help-17655000

BenMcr · 03-10-2012, 22:54

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Originally Posted by David H

Definite development, I can now access the news index, but when I select a category it just sent me back to the video clip. But I expect the presence of it implies a step towards written content. Is it a transitional stage or have I missed a step, or is it faulty?

I think you need to keep going 'Up'.

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As far as red button's concerned there is still another text button on the Tivo remote, so was clearly built to do that as well.

Actually the 'Text' button is specific to the VM version of TiVo. It's not on the US version. I think it was put there as 'in case' as it's on the V box remotes too - but has never done anything Virgin related. However if you've set up the remote to control your TV, then 'Text' is input select

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And finally Freeview has text/red button on non-BBC channels, any chance we'll ever get any as well?

You mean like you can on NatGeo and Sky Sports? For the most part 'Red Button' is just a way to access interactive services connect to a channel. TiVo has a dedicates apps section - so there are apps there from PBS America, Cartoon Network and CNBC - which would normally be classed as 'Red Button'

David H · 04-10-2012, 01:09

Got it, text is go! Now will we get C5+1 next? Please?

Itshim · 04-10-2012, 09:30

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Originally Posted by David H

"Teletext really That is a blast from the past."

No, that's Ceefax. What do you call news available on the red button on Sky and Freeview in text form? I thought teletext was the generic term, is there another one?

What ever name you care to refer to the type of service by( Think Hoover for vacuum cleaners) Its a blast from the past in my home

roger skillin · 20-10-2012, 20:40

I see the strictly come dancing red button commentary doesn't work on TiVo, what's that all about? Isn't TiVo supposed to be the future and of I want to have interactive services like that I have to use freeview

denphone · 20-10-2012, 20:43

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Originally Posted by roger skillin

I see the strictly come dancing red button commentary doesn't work on TiVo, what's that all about? Isn't TiVo supposed to be the future and of I want to have interactive services like that I have to use freeview

Yes at the moment the BBC red button service for the TiVo is extremely poor and this is down to the BBC's snail like speed in developing the red button service on the TiVo.

roger skillin · 20-10-2012, 20:47

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Originally Posted by denphone

Yes at the moment the BBC red button service for the TiVo is extremely poor and this is down to the BBC's snail like speed in developing the red button service on the TiVo.

Thanks for the quick heads up.
Big fail BBC