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			19-06-2016, 14:05
			
			
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				ah the loyal defender of all things Cameron rides in on his trusty steed ..... 
			
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 If posting a fact is defending Cameron, so be it...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			19-06-2016, 14:09
			
			
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				If posting a fact is defending Cameron, so be it... 
			
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 i didn't think he had a bent nose -he's just fundamentally bent .....
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			19-06-2016, 14:11
			
			
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				If posting a fact is defending Cameron, so be it... 
			
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 The fact you wouldn't have posted the same defending corbyn is evidence enough...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			19-06-2016, 14:13
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Gavin78
					 
				 
				Really why is that then? I don't see the relevance to her death? 
 
I don't support immigrants coming into this country in large numbers but I wouldn't have wished anyone dead. 
 
Just because she supported one thing doesn't mean others have to suddenly change their views. 
			
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 Seems The Gover agrees that this Leave poster is just wrong:
 Michael Gove: Ukip's poster made me 'shudder'
He deserves credit for coming out and saying this ..    
 
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				The fact you wouldn't have posted the same defending corbyn is evidence enough... 
			
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 You have a point here ..
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				The fact you wouldn't have posted the same defending corbyn is evidence enough... 
			
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 Eh?
 
Does anyone on the forum have a signature misrepresenting the derivation of the meaning of Corbyn?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			19-06-2016, 14:15
			
			
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				Eh? 
 
Does anyone on the forum have a signature misrepresenting the derivation of the meaning of Corbyn? 
			
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			19-06-2016, 14:32
			
			
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			I don't see a problem with the poster he says it how it is none of this PC nonsense. 
 
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			What people don't realise is our laws won't stop or change. 
 
Laws we don't like can be repealed, so say workers rights will stop over night are crap. The current law still remains until changed.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Eh? 
 
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Hugh you're a smart guy so don't think anyone will buy your playing innocent/ dumb. There have been countless occasions when labour mps have been falsely accused and you've never once defended them, you've seemingly been happy for any falsehood to stand no matter how much of a whopper but you race to the defence of any slur against any tory be it Dave Gideon or bozo no matter what they've done or how trivial that slur, it's fine but don't expect anyone to believe you're anything other than totally partisan
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			Worth it, just for the worryingly funny first five minutes alone. The following few minutes is also worth a watch, showing members walking out when someone suggests that more of the decisions should be made by the Sovereign states.  
 
People expecting the EU to change if we remain, are in for a shock.
 
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				What people don't realise is our laws won't stop or change. 
 
Laws we don't like can be repealed, so say workers rights will stop over night are crap. The current law still remains until changed. 
			
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 Look at the changes coming in French employment law, back-peddling on many changes brought in to improve workers rights. Despite being a major player in the EU. The French workers are fighting tooth and nail to oppose their introduction, bringing parts of the country to a total standstill. Their Unions are strong, ours are weak.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			19-06-2016, 16:21
			
			
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				Hugh you're a smart guy so don't think anyone will buy your playing innocent/ dumb. There have been countless occasions when labour mps have been falsely accused and you've never once defended them, you've seemingly been happy for any falsehood to stand no matter how much of a whopper but you race to the defence of any slur against any tory be it Dave Gideon or bozo no matter what they've done or how trivial that slur, it's fine but don't expect anyone to believe you're anything other than totally partisan 
			
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 It's not a slur, it's an incorrect/partial presentation of a fact (where the name Cameron comes from).
 
People keep complaining that the facts are not presented, just opinions, but when someone points out a fact (or the misrepresentation of one), suddenly it's bias....  
If it had meant bent or crooked, that would have been amusing - as it is, it is deliberately being misrepresented by missing off the last word in the correct definition.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				Look at the changes coming in French employment law, back-peddling on many changes brought in to improve workers rights. Despite being a major player in the EU. The French workers are fighting tooth and nail to oppose their introduction, bringing parts of the country to a total standstill. Their Unions are strong, ours are weak. 
			
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 The french enjoy the shortest working week in Europe(35hrs) along with the longest average paid holidays (30 days ) ,workers rights in France are unfairly biased in so many ways towards the worker and they still would be even if the unions lose this round of strikes and workers lose some protections .Our workers rights are relatively evenly balanced ,more similar to those in the rest of Europe,they will not change should we leave the EU
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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					Originally Posted by  Gavin78
					 
				 
				I don't see a problem with the poster he says it how it is none of this PC nonsense. 
 
lets face it though none of these IN/OUT campaigners are cleaner than clean 
			
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 No I don't see anything wrong with it either.  There is nothing offensive I can see.  
 
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				Worth it, just for the worryingly funny first five minutes alone. The following few minutes is also worth a watch, showing members walking out when someone suggests that more of the decisions should be made by the Sovereign states.  
 
People expecting the EU to change if we remain, are in for a shock.
 
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 Indeed.  Boris said today what I've been saying for a while.  We already don't have a voice in the biggest parts of the EU because we opted out of it.  Schengen, The Euro, Political integration so we don't have a seat at that table.  What's left?  Who was it said we're in or we're out?  Well, we're only half in so may as well come out all the way.  
 
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					Originally Posted by  Hom3r
					 
				 
				What people don't realise is our laws won't stop or change. 
 
Laws we don't like can be repealed, so say workers rights will stop over night are crap. The current law still remains until changed. 
			
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 I think they will probably keep the basics of some of the EU laws but make them only apply to Britain.  
 
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				Look at the changes coming in French employment law, back-peddling on many changes brought in to improve workers rights. Despite being a major player in the EU. The French workers are fighting tooth and nail to oppose their introduction, bringing parts of the country to a total standstill. Their Unions are strong, ours are weak. 
			
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 And if we remain, we'll be next?  Worth thinking about.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				And if we remain, we'll be next?  Worth thinking about. 
			
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 I am pro-brexit, and I'm sure the pushing-down of wages will be followed by a reduction in rights whether we are in or out. I wonder what the status of all the EU workers will be if we leave though? Boris said today that he wants an amnesty for all illegals here for more than 12 years, so what of EU nationals here?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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