Football : Season 2011/12

[colin25]

Originally Posted by Kymmy

He was always a great guy.. I met him at a MCFC charity event when he played for them..

From what i have seen of him on tv etc..agreed..he seem one of the few people everyone recognises as being a "good guy".

[thenry]

Arsenal wage bill 130mil

Stadium debt 220mil

Arsenal have 50+ mil cash

failure to get into the CL will cost 45mil.. some of which will be covered by reserves.

Arsenal asking about ticket increase and different prices for each game, high tier or some crap... makes my blood boil!!!

player sales only profit to date... crap sponsorships. not Arsenals fault entirely. the games moved on since we signed the mega deal at the time

more to follow

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Usmanov told to do one because our board members are weak and Stan isnt up for a fight so the easiest thing for them is ignore him. The board have got rich throughout this farce.

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71 pros on the wage bill.. wages bills 4th highest in league

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Wengrr was put in charge when Dein had to leave. Dein still spends more time with Wenger than Wenger does with Ivan. Dein also attends games.

Ok. Wenger as I knew has messed up. payrolls screwed and to top it djouruo has apperently been given a pay rise and more years on his contract.. what a joke, wenger doesnt learn.

therell be problems if Arsenal dont get into the CL for next season.

We had Mata all but signed but Wengerr screwed up, players out going, wages.. in short pathetic.

[iadom]

I think that THIS definitely comes under the category.

Jim.

Originally Posted by thenry

Wengrr was put in charge when Dein had to leave. Dein still spends more time with Wenger than Wenger does with Ivan. Dein also attends games.

Ok. Wenger as I knew has messed up. payrolls screwed and to top it djouruo has apperently been given a pay rise and more years on his contract.. what a joke, wenger doesnt learn.

therell be problems if Arsenal dont get into the CL for next season.

We had Mata all but signed but Wengerr screwed up, players out going, wages.. in short pathetic.

I am a member of the AST and I will be checking all this was actually said. I will post here if you have been distorting the truth.

Not even the media have gone as far to call Wenger pathetic. It really is a disgraceful way to treat the manager from a fan of the club.

[thenry]

the AST didnt call Wenger pathetic i did. hes lost control.. infact taken on too much control

Originally Posted by thenry

the AST didnt call Wenger pathetic i did. hes lost control.. infact taken on too much control

I know you did. That's what I was referring too. He is one the greatest managers Arsenal have ever had and regardless of disagreements about his future of the club he warrants more respect than that, especially from his own fans.

As for stuff about Wenger screwing up the Mata deal, Wenger being in charge of the all the wages, and all that. I am a member of the AST. I will look for these comments in the minutes when they e-mail it to me. That said they are not comments from the board. I will also look at the report from the AST itself to see the finances.

[thenry]

years of mismanagement. ok fair enough.. the board are pathetic for letting this continue but then i guess their scared to say too much because he is a great manager which they dont want to let go of. hes just got himself in a proper mess. i dont want him gone but hes made really bad choices.

[DocDutch]

In my opinion the biggest mistake the board has made was selling the club to kroenke instead of ustimanov as he would have pumped money into the club for more experienced players and restructuring of the wages.

1 thing is for certain and some of the dead wood needs to be sold like arshavin

The interesting thing is that people can't have it both ways. Either Wenger has the money to spend and has been neglecting to do so or Arsenal are only just breaking even and failing to qualify for the CL will hit the club. If the latter is true then Wenger hasn't had the money to spend, at all, and has had to depend on cheap purchases where he can.

[thenry]

when youve got a manager like Wenger you dont need an owner like Usmanov. what you do need though is the best coming in and the average walking out. thats been screwed. Damien feels sorry for the boss. i feel upset/angry.

[DocDutch]

I have the funny feeling its the last option damien. With the sale or fab and nasri propping the coffersespecially if the wages bill is that high.

Think we might just have too many players on the book that aren't being used

[thenry]

no damein its a bit of both. the club is currently breaking even but its got to do with whats at the club. most of them dont deserve to wear the shirt but Wengers put faith in them etc..

he needs a ruthless mind set dealing with these pee takers. bur he himself is to blame too for giving them huge wages then not willing to hammerthem when they take the pee.. something about him notwanting to ruin their confidence...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...ing-squad.html

Arsène Wenger will have only £55 million with which to reconstruct his Arsenal squad in the close season, and much less if they fail to qualify for the next Champions League campaign.

That is the message from Arsenal’s small shareholders, who shed light on the financial constraints Wenger must operate under as he strains to guide his team into the top four.

The £55 million Wenger has available must cover the fees for any new signings as well as their wages. More revenues might flow if players can be moved on.

The wage bill is too high, spread out amongst average players. It's welcoming news that there will be a lot of players leaving when the window opens which should bring that wage bill down, we need to player the younger/reserve players less than we do.

However we bring in more promising young players than a lot of clubs and pay high wages in lieu of high transfer fees to support such a model. Szcesney and Wilshere are examples of this working. Denilson, Bendtner are examples of this failing. It's difficult to know in advance which will be successes.

Wenger simply doesn't have the money. £55 million and you have to remember that includes money left over from the Fabregas and Nasri deals.

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Originally Posted by thenry

when youve got a manager like Wenger you dont need an owner like Usmanov. what you do need though is the best coming in and the average walking out. thats been screwed. Damien feels sorry for the boss. i feel upset/angry.

I don't feel sorry for the boss. Well, I do, because he is being portrayed as a senile old fool when he deserves a lot more respect, especially from the clubs fans considering all he has done.

However that's not why I defend him. I defend him because he remains one of the best managers in the world. This is why the likes of PSG and Madrid still court him to take over, he refused an offer to manage PSG already this season.

The truth is the club breaks even. He doesn't have the money to spend lavishly. So what better manager is there for this than Wenger? A owner like Usmanov will spend his own money, falling foul of FFP and risking the club's security should he ever leave.

[Alan Fry]

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc

The exit of wenger draws nearer. Whether you Arsenal fans keep defending him or not its another year without a trophy now.

Who will replace him?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Alan Fry

Who will replace him?

Any names on your mind Alan?.