12-12-2016, 20:20
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Telling them well in advance of negotiations would allow them to set up stern resistance to our stance, or have time to manoeuvre the lawyers into position. After all, it will be a lawyer' fest, the trough will runneth over.
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OMG what do think is actually happening ? we will be trying to negotiate a exit deal that will be beneficial to us as well as the rest of the EU ,it's not a war
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12-12-2016, 21:13
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
The Government starts to appreciate the practicalities of Brexit.
Chancellor urges Brexit interim deal
Mr Hammond told the Treasury select committee that there was an "emerging view" that having longer would tend towards a "smoother transition" .
There would be "less risks of disruption" including "crucially risks to financial stability", he added.
However, both business and government would have to make changes, he said.
His comments are being seen as the strongest signal yet from the government that the Brexit process could take a lot longer than the two years needed for the official Article 50 exit process to be completed.
Link http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38295358
David Davis requests ‘specific numbers’ on Brexit from car chiefs
David Davis has said he will take a “data driven” approach to Brexit negotiations as he was lobbied by senior motor industry executives anxious about the effects on their sector of leaving the EU.
Mr Davis reportedly asked those present what impact trade barriers would have on British motor plants. “This would allow [the government] to weigh up the options going into negotiations [with the EU],” said one executive.
Incurring tariffs on car exports and imports would cost the UK motor industry around £4.5bn a year, the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders has previously calculated.
Link: Google above headline in bold/subscibers can use https://www.ft.com/content/e428f2b8-...2-f57d90f6741a
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12-12-2016, 21:45
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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I'm sure all the lawyers are in position. Surely the sooner we tell the EU our position the sooner we can leave?
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No. We need to tell them our position when we are ready to, not when remainers want us to.
Gawd, this is like talking to children.
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12-12-2016, 22:12
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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No. We need to tell them our position when we are ready to, not when remainers want us to.
Gawd, this is like talking to children.
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If you disagree with people you shouldn't belittle them. This is meant to be a discussion.
As you can see from the posts here, it's also people who voted leave that wish the Government to set out its aims.
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12-12-2016, 23:22
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No there shouldn't be an interim deal and our exit should follow two years after article 50 is invoked in march no pratting about and no dragging it out. If our government doesn't feel it can negotiate an acceptable deal in two years then sack the current lot and get a team that can do it. Hammond was a remain supporter and him talking of dragging it out will set alarm bells ringing amongst a lot of people.
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12-12-2016, 23:56
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Hammond was a remain supporter and him talking of dragging it out will set alarm bells ringing amongst a lot of people.
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Do you believe that he's conspiring to thwart Brexit?
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13-12-2016, 00:24
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Do you believe that he's conspiring to thwart Brexit?
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Certainly not! I took the comment to mean that we would shortly be seeing Mr Hammond dressed in a fetching pair of little used women's leather trousers .
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
Hammond was a remain supporter and him talking of dragging it out will set alarm bells ringing amongst a lot of people.
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13-12-2016, 04:43
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I think there are some in the remain camp who'd see any means as acceptable if it meant we stayed in the EU, some because they have got too used to letting the EU do most of the work they are supposed to do. Others because the loss of such a lucrative trough when we vote them out is just too much of a sacrifice and then you have the true believers such as the lib dems. I still maintain cameron knew what he was doing with how he setup the referendum to gaurantee as much trouble as possible with the whole process.
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13-12-2016, 06:53
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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No there shouldn't be an interim deal and our exit should follow two years after article 50 is invoked in march no pratting about and no dragging it out. If our government doesn't feel it can negotiate an acceptable deal in two years then sack the current lot and get a team that can do it. Hammond was a remain supporter and him talking of dragging it out will set alarm bells ringing amongst a lot of people.
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Our exit will follow after 2 years regardless ,the only thing that can extend negotiations is approval by all member countries ,that is built into the rules in A50 and is not open to interpretation .
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No. We need to tell them our position when we are ready to, not when remainers want us to.
Gawd, this is like talking to children.
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Once again ,we are negotiating a trade deal not fighting a war ,the sooner everyone knows what we want the sooner we can get on and get the job done .We do not need secrecy and bluffs ,a good trade deal is not obtained by keeping your objectives secret
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13-12-2016, 07:14
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If i could be certain the EU would be as open and transparent as some want our government to be i wouldn't mind but given the EU's past I'm not optimistic. I doubt hammond would have gone public with the interim deal and a longer then two year exit unless it was an option the government was considering.
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13-12-2016, 07:54
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Once again ,we are negotiating a trade deal not fighting a war ,the sooner everyone knows what we want the sooner we can get on and get the job done .We do not need secrecy and bluffs ,a good trade deal is not obtained by keeping your objectives secret
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A50 has nothing to do with trade deals per se, they must be done separately. All A50 entails is the terms of our exit.
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How much.
Status of EU immigrants here and our expats etc.
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A Member State which decides to withdraw shall notify the European Council of its intention. In the light of the guidelines provided by the European Council, the Union shall negotiate and conclude an agreement with that State, setting out the arrangements for its withdrawal, taking account of the framework for its future relationship with the Union. That agreement shall be negotiated in accordance with Article 218(3) of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union. It shall be concluded on behalf of the Union by the Council, acting by a qualified majority, after obtaining the consent of the European Parliament.
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Source
http://www.lisbon-treaty.org/wcm/the...rticle-50.html
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13-12-2016, 08:09
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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Hammond was a remain supporter and him talking of dragging it out will set alarm bells ringing amongst a lot of people.
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Do you believe that he's conspiring to thwart Brexit?
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Originally Posted by RizzyKing
I think there are some in the remain camp who'd see any means as acceptable if it meant we stayed in the EU, some because they have got too used to letting the EU do most of the work they are supposed to do. Others because the loss of such a lucrative trough when we vote them out is just too much of a sacrifice and then you have the true believers such as the lib dems. I still maintain cameron knew what he was doing with how he setup the referendum to gaurantee as much trouble as possible with the whole process.
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But what about the person I asked you about - Philip Hammond? Do you believe he is conspiring to thwart Brexit?
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13-12-2016, 08:19
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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But what about the person I asked you about - Philip Hammond? Do you believe he is conspiring to thwart Brexit?
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No he could be responding and agreeing with this Lords report.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...MCNEWEML6619I2
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13-12-2016, 08:58
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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But what about the person I asked you about - Philip Hammond? Do you believe he is conspiring to thwart Brexit?
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this chaps not happy with him
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/742...olitics-Brexit
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13-12-2016, 10:17
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread
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What's Farage threatening to do? Stand for Westminster Parliament? Ironically, it's only the EU that's allowed him to become elected, his attempts at becoming an MP in Westminster have been unsuccessful.
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