TiVo - Page 212

**Hugh** · 27-02-2011, 21:38

Actually, you didn't.

You said what it meant to you, which is your interpretation of the purpose it was built for, which, given your obvious anti-VM TV bias, may be different from that of VM/Tivo...

Marcus125 · 27-02-2011, 21:39

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Actually, you didn't.

You said what it meant to you, which is your interpretation of the purpose it was built for.

Oh sorry I thought it was built to deliver cable tv over the VM network whilst intergrating Tivo features.

Guess I was wong eh.

Sarg92 · 27-02-2011, 21:40

I was in my local Virgin Media store today and I was talking to the employee about TiVo. He told me that in April the 1TB TiVo box (premium) will be released but then in September another TiVo box will be released but with a smaller hard drive.

Can anyone confirm this?

**Hugh** · 27-02-2011, 21:42

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

Does Neil Berkett pay you?

All I pointed was that if Tivo is "state of the art" then it will contain the latest tech for the purpose it was built for.

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

Oh sorry I thought it was built to deliver cable tv over the VM network whilst intergrating Tivo features.

Guess I was wong eh.

Two different statements - it may be what you meant to say, but it wasn't what you typed.....

Amusing that you type "wrong" wrong.

muppetman11 · 27-02-2011, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

Does Neil Berkett pay you?

All I pointed was that if Tivo is "state of the art" then it will contain the latest tech for the purpose it was built for.

I don't pick holes in Sky. Sky are good at what they do but I talk VM because that happens to be who I'm currently with.

muppetman11 · 27-02-2011, 21:56

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Originally Posted by Marcus125

Hugh you were the first person to give me bad rep and now you're grasping at straws to point out faults in what I type.

Its getting kind of embarrasing now.

I thought the PURPOSE IT WAS BUILT FOR was to SHOW CABLE TV AND CARRY TIVO FEATURES.

And doesn't it , coz I could swear the one I used in the VM shop did all that and more.

Stephen · 27-02-2011, 21:56

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

So how come know one on heres saying they've had the call lately. Most on here will have pre registered earlier than most others.

There are over 40,000 customers to contact and only a few of which use this forum. So chances are those getting called are not users of CF

Marcus125 · 27-02-2011, 21:57

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

And doesn't it , coz I could swear the one I used in the VM shop did all that and more.

So I was right in my assumption then?

millenp · 27-02-2011, 22:01

Got my TIVO yesterday - I would say that the picture quality is much the same as the V+ box. Having said that, SD picture quality varies hugely with channel - for example BB2 SD looks fine but C4 is awful - watching Friends - maybe due to the NTSC port?

I noticed watching BB1 HD football this afternoon that the match feed looked really good but the background build up interviews etc - which presumably were not filmed in HD looked fuzzy to say the least

This is going to be the same debate that was had when CDs first came out - the end result is only as good as the source material, but has the potential to be top notch.

I have seen sky movies HD films on my V+ that looked as good as the bluray versions on my Samsung TV - I need to watch a few on TIVO to compare...

27-02-2011, 22:02

I think I have heard enough to unregister my interest until they sort out the what seems to be upscaler issue on SD

loeb · 27-02-2011, 22:09

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Originally Posted by Sarg92

I was in my local Virgin Media store today and I was talking to the employee about TiVo. He told me that in April the 1TB TiVo box (premium) will be released but then in September another TiVo box will be released but with a smaller hard drive.

Can anyone confirm this?

So it looks like what i was told wasn't a load of poo afterall.

Stephen · 27-02-2011, 22:13

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Originally Posted by mlayzell

I think I have heard enough to unregister my interest until they sort out the what seems to be upscaler issue on SD

I personally don't think there is an issue with the upscaled at all. Some people are expecting too much from SD broadcasts. Especially watching older tv programmes.

For example if you watch Eastenders on BBC1 and switch to the HD version they don't appear too different as it was shot in HD and downscaled for normal BBC1, where as something like friends which was made in the mid 90's and upscaled on E4 HD will still not look that great if watching on normal E4 as was shot in SD. Then channels that have a lower quality anyway will still not look too good upscaled.

So while the SA V+ was good at upscaling and the Samsung was better than that. I do think that the TiVo looks just as good but it also depends on the source material.

I tend not to watch the SD channels anymore as most shows I watch are available on the HD versions of the 5 main channels, ie 1-5.

Marcus125 · 27-02-2011, 22:17

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Originally Posted by Stephen

I personally don't think there is an issue with the upscaled at all. Some people are expecting too much from SD broadcasts. Especially watching older tv programmes.

For example if you watch Eastenders on BBC1 and switch to the HD version they don't appear too different as it was shot in HD and downscaled for normal BBC1, where as something like friends which was made in the mid 90's and upscaled on E4 HD will still not look that great if watching on normal E4 as was shot in SD. Then channels that have a lower quality anyway will still not look too good upscaled.

So while the SA V+ was good at upscaling and the Samsung was better than that. I do think that the TiVo looks just as good but it also depends on the source material.

I tend not to watch the SD channels anymore as most shows I watch are available on the HD versions of the 5 main channels, ie 1-5.

No offence but its 2011.................... People have had HD and SD from the same source for 10years or so.

WE KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD BE EXPECTING. The problem with some internet forums is they dont progress with the times. They still think the average consumer does not understand there tech.

THEY DO...ITS 2011 Even my 10 year old daughter wants Disney channel in HD lol.

**Hugh** · 27-02-2011, 22:21

Please stop shouting - it is rude.

btw, BluRay came out in 2006, and BSkyB launched it's HD service in 2006, so "10 years or so" is a little exaggerated.

scgf · 27-02-2011, 22:21

All I'm doing is comparing the same channels on two different devices - Samsung V+ and the new TiVo. All SD channels look visibly worse on the TiVo, everything else being equal.

When I moved from Sky to VM I was thrilled at how good their SD channels looked. I had aassumed it was the VM service, but now it turns out to be the boxes themselves and the built-in scaler.

I'm not happy about paying extra for a box which gives me a worse picture than I had before. I'm going to give it a few days, then maybe I'll change back to a V+ box.