12-12-2016, 15:26
|
#3166
|
vox populi vox dei
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: the last resort
Services: every thing
Posts: 13,740
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh
We don't vote for a prime minister though
|
no we vote for the party the party picks a leader .
__________________
To be or not to be, woke is the question Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer. The slings and arrows of outrageous wokedome, Or to take arms against a sea of wokies. And by opposing end them.
|
|
|
12-12-2016, 15:33
|
#3167
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,343
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart
TBH, I was never happy with the way the government appeared to be trying to keep Parliament out of the process when one of the big selling points of the leave campaign was returning control from some unelected "elite" to our Parliament. Bear in mind that Theresa May, while elected, was not the leader of the party during the last election, so it's doubtful most of the people who voted for her were thinking about her being Prime Minister when they voted, so she cannot claim she was voted in as Prime Minister any more than any leader of the EU can claim to have been voted in.
|
Interesting statistic I heard the other day - half of the Prime Ministers we have had in the UK weren't leaders of their parties when people voted in the relevant election. (I think half is by number of Prime Ministers and not by the length of time they were in power.)
|
|
|
12-12-2016, 15:33
|
#3168
|
Sad Doig Fan!
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Barry South Wales
Age: 68
Services: With VM for BB 250Mb service.(Deal)
Posts: 11,690
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart
TBH, I was never happy with the way the government appeared to be trying to keep Parliament out of the process when one of the big selling points of the leave campaign was returning control from some unelected "elite" to our Parliament. Bear in mind that Theresa May, while elected, was not the leader of the party during the last election, so it's doubtful most of the people who voted for her were thinking about her being Prime Minister when they voted, so she cannot claim she was voted in as Prime Minister any more than any leader of the EU can claim to have been voted in.
|
Perhaps the Government is carrying on the wish of Cameron who stated if the result was to leave he would invoke A50 straight away. I didn't hear anyone in Parliament or anywhere else raising an objection. That would've been the correct time to do so.
Once the vote was to leave what did Cameron do? He ran away! At least Teresa May is attempting to carry out the promise made to the people made by her lilly livered predecessor.
|
|
|
12-12-2016, 15:43
|
#3169
|
Guest
Location: newcastle upon tyne
Services: Sky Q silver bundle
Sky Q 2TB box
Sky Q mini box
Sky fibre unlimited
Sky Talk evenings and week
Posts: n/a
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456
Perhaps the Government is carrying on the wish of Cameron who stated if the result was to leave he would invoke A50 straight away. I didn't hear anyone in Parliament or anywhere else raising an objection. That would've been the correct time to do so.
Once the vote was to leave what did Cameron do? He ran away! At least Teresa May is attempting to carry out the promise made to the people made by her lilly livered predecessor.
|
He just got a big sulk on and ran off with his ball .I don't want someone with that attitude running the country anyway
|
|
|
12-12-2016, 18:41
|
#3170
|
Inactive
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Right here!
Posts: 22,316
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh
He just got a big sulk on and ran off with his ball .I don't want someone with that attitude running the country anyway
|
Odd that GaryL disappeared around the same time eh? Maybe he was DC's alter ego...
|
|
|
12-12-2016, 18:49
|
#3171
|
Perfect Soldier
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Worthing West Sussex
Age: 67
Services: VM 500M SH3 thingy
in modem mode
XL TV V6 Sony Bravia smart TV and M phone
Posts: 11,023
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem
Odd that GaryL disappeared around the same time eh? Maybe he was DC's alter ego...
|
I was going to mention that I've been left holding his set of crayons and colouring book.
__________________
History is much like an endless waltz: The three beats of war, peace and revolution continue on forever.
However history will change with my coronation - Mariemaia Khushrenada
|
|
|
12-12-2016, 19:14
|
#3172
|
cf.mega pornstar
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 18,849
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by heero_yuy
I was going to mention that I've been left holding his set of crayons and colouring book.
|
There any crayons in that box, I heard he ate them all
|
|
|
12-12-2016, 19:37
|
#3173
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Kairdiff-by-the-sea
Age: 68
Services: TVXL BBXL Superhub 2ac (wired) 1Tb Tivo
Posts: 9,853
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien
Good good. It isn't that outlandish a demand. Let people know what we're trying to do.
|
I'd like to play poker with you, I'd get rich quick as you would show your hand so easily.
|
|
|
12-12-2016, 19:47
|
#3174
|
Remoaner
Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 32,279
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf
I'd like to play poker with you, I'd get rich quick as you would show your hand so easily.
|
It's not actually a card game. Asking for more details about what the government is seeking to achieve on one of the biggest deals we're going to see for this country is justified. It doesn't fill people who are worried with confidence when every single aspect of the coming years is watered down to the simplest possible terms.
|
|
|
12-12-2016, 19:53
|
#3175
|
[NTHW] pc clan
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Tonbridge
Age: 56
Services: Amazon Prime Video & Netflix. Deregistered from my TV licence.
Posts: 21,950
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456
|
Oh bloody marvellous!
---------- Post added at 19:51 ---------- Previous post was at 19:48 ----------
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien
It's not actually a card game. Asking for more details about what the government is seeking to achieve on one of the biggest deals we're going to see for this country is justified.
|
No it isn't. For the simple reason that the EU will be able to see that information as well.
---------- Post added at 19:53 ---------- Previous post was at 19:51 ----------
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem
On reflection let's stay in the EU where, after decades of banging our heads against a wall, we can see quite clearly the financial and social chaos which lies around the corner yet won't be able to do anything about it. Now that's a really good idea eh?...
|
I was just going to suggest that.......but then I found a brain cell to use
__________________
Step by step, walk the thousand mile road...
-----------------------------------------------------
|
|
|
12-12-2016, 19:55
|
#3176
|
Remoaner
Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 32,279
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
That Telegraph article is a bit dubious. Seems entirely made up for clicks:
Quote:
A narrow loss for the appeal will make it harder for Remain-supporting MPs and peers to frustrate the progress of a new law to trigger Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty and start talks to leave the EU by the end of March.
|
If 7-4, 63% of the sitting court, makes it hard for Remain to push their case forward then should that logic apply to the referendum where only 52% went for Leave?
---------- Post added at 19:55 ---------- Previous post was at 19:54 ----------
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod
No it isn't. For the simple reason that the EU will be able to see that information as well.
|
The EU will know it anyway. Besides it's clear that they'll be briefing out what is happening so we'll just get it from them.
|
|
|
12-12-2016, 20:03
|
#3177
|
Guest
Location: newcastle upon tyne
Services: Sky Q silver bundle
Sky Q 2TB box
Sky Q mini box
Sky fibre unlimited
Sky Talk evenings and week
Posts: n/a
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf
I'd like to play poker with you, I'd get rich quick as you would show your hand so easily.
|
we've got to tell the EU what we want from them post Brexit anyway or it will be a very odd sort of negotiation
---------- Post added at 20:03 ---------- Previous post was at 20:00 ----------
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem
Odd that GaryL disappeared around the same time eh? Maybe he was DC's alter ego...
|
You never did see them in the same room
|
|
|
12-12-2016, 20:07
|
#3178
|
Inactive
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Right here!
Posts: 22,316
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
What we need to do is to set out broadly what our aims are without detailing exactly what concessions we're prepared to make before the negotiating starts. IMHO that'd include not guaranteeing the future of EU migrants here until the EU has agreed to do likewise.
|
|
|
12-12-2016, 20:12
|
#3179
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Kairdiff-by-the-sea
Age: 68
Services: TVXL BBXL Superhub 2ac (wired) 1Tb Tivo
Posts: 9,853
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by martyh
we've got to tell the EU what we want from them post Brexit anyway or it will be a very odd sort of negotiation
|
Telling them well in advance of negotiations would allow them to set up stern resistance to our stance, or have time to manoeuvre the lawyers into position. After all, it will be a lawyer' fest, the trough will runneth over.
|
|
|
12-12-2016, 20:19
|
#3180
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 14,343
|
Re: Post-Brexit Thread
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taf
Telling them well in advance of negotiations would allow them to set up stern resistance to our stance, or have time to manoeuvre the lawyers into position. After all, it will be a lawyer' fest, the trough will runneth over.
|
I'm sure all the lawyers are in position. Surely the sooner we tell the EU our position the sooner we can leave?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osem
What we need to do is to set out broadly what our aims are without detailing exactly what concessions we're prepared to make before the negotiating starts.
|
Agreed. This should also help speed matters along which I'm sure will find favours with those who want to leave quickly.
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 2 (0 members and 2 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 23:12.
|