Brexit discussion

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

I don't see many 'British' companies in these lists that are now coming out.

oh sorry, they were sold down the river years ago

This FT article cites British-owned and head-quartered companies Unipart, Ineos and Avon Valley Precision Engineering.
https://www.ft.com/content/ee84acd0-...4-408cfba4327c

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

All a load of tosh. Keep this real: with "friends" like Juncker, Barnier, Verhofstadt, Merkel and the two faces of Macron we shouldn't want to have anything to do with those vultures.

We are more than 60 million people and the UK can make it all work, with or without the EU - and for that matter the perfidious Irish PM.

Yes, the skilled aircraft workers there can move to East Anglia and displace the Eastern European fruit-pickers.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

All a load of tosh. Keep this real: with "friends" like Juncker, Barnier, Verhofstadt, Merkel and the two faces of Macron we shouldn't want to have anything to do with those vultures.

We are more than 60 million people and the UK can make it all work, with or without the EU - and for that matter the perfidious Irish PM.

I think you are keeping it unreal and in denial somewhat. Look around you ..

BTW, I though we were perfidious one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfidious_Albion

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Chloé Palmas

It is interesting the way that you worded that - "growing a pair". While yes, I would like if they did stand up to the nationalists of their own volition, I kind of see it more as just the reality of it all setting in. I can't see this as being anything other than just free market policies now setting in, you? I mean if you were looking at somewhere that had a stable political, monetary and fiscal environment in to grow jobs, start businesses and have a stable growth environment, where would you look to? Would you stay in the UK? It just looks like economic common sense, not anything like what was dubbed as "project fear".

It's more a case of time running out. Companies would have had to make announcements earlier one way or the other if the Government had struck a deal. It hasn't and so they really have to work in the dark. I think the seal may have been broken and we'll continue to hear warnings from more companies.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It's more a case of time running out. Companies would have had to make announcements earlier one way or the other if the Government had struck a deal. It hasn't and so they really have to work in the dark. I think the seal may have been broken and we'll continue to hear warnings from more companies.

There was no deal to be struck - at least not at this stage. The nasty EU wants to punish us for our democratic decision.

It has made the guvmin in look stupid because we see little progress. Leave means leave not half in/half out. The guvmin say they are confident of a good deal on a leave means leave basis. If they know something we don’t, which is entirely possible, we might all get a surprise.

As to the principal Tory MP remoaners, they are anti-democratic in their behaviour; dishonest in their stated intentions; many of them miffed at being ousted by May from the cabinet.

Btw, if for any reason we do end up remaining in the EU, no worries, as long as we keep sticking picador sticks into Brussels.

[papa smurf]

Protesters to march on anniversary to demand second referendum.

Traitors at the event will include Tory rebel Anna Soubry, Labour MP David Lammy and Green Party co-leader Caroline Lucas.

Businesswoman Gina Miller, who took the Government to court over Brexit, will also give a speech in favour of a second third or even fourth referendum until she gets the answer she wants.

The real story here
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...my-Gina-Miller

EU Referendum The Counting Results currently being re-run on BBC Parliament Channel as of right now...

[nomadking]

Still wondering what a 2nd referendum result is meant to represent. All those that want to remain will vote no to any deal whatever it is.


Any deal has to be right because it will never be changed. IE No deal is better than a bad deal, as with a "no deal", a reasonable deal can still be struck, but a "bad deal" can never be overturned.


You have to be extra careful in wording any agreement, because the EU can set its own rules for who is included as part of the EU. Eg Freedom of movement can be handed over to Ukraine and Turkey etc, without the UK having a say. Not that we have or had much of a say even within the EU. Whatever Germany and France say, goes.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

EU Referendum The Counting Results currently being re-run on BBC Parliament Channel as of right now...

Really Mick ? The World Cups on and it's sunny outside

Guess you have to go back that far to find things going well for the Brexiteers, all downhill since then !

[heero_yuy]

Quote from thisismoney.co.uk:


Highway and airport engineering group Colas said it is pumping fresh cash into its UK business and gearing up to spend 'billions' on takeovers in a bid to boost market share.

The French-based group, which operates in 20 locations across the UK, hopes its new 'UK Projects' division will clinch a string of domestic deals, including an upcoming tender for a highways project.

One of the group's executive directors, Carl Fergusson, refused to give further details, but said the company has been in regular contact with the British government, which is 'becoming more commercial' in its approach to business and is welcoming foreign investment in light of Brexit.

Seems they don't share Airbus' negativity.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by heero_yuy

Seems they don't share Airbus' negativity.

Yes a French company, picking up the scraps the failed British Carillon. Not exactly a British success story or vote of confidence, just an opportunity to make money where we've failed.

Anyway the French don't want the Third World on their border. How are they going to turn back the tide of British immigrants (like Brexiteer Lord Lawson !) Close the tunnel now if I were them

Originally Posted by Mr K

Really Mick ? The World Cups on and it's sunny outside

Guess you have to go back that far to find things going well for the Brexiteers, all downhill since then !

Nope not at all. Because we’re still leaving the EU and IT WON’T be downhill at all.

With the likes of Sweden, Poland and Italy all getting pissed off with the EU, we won’t be the only ones leaving the corrupted pile of garbage, AKA EU!

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Mick

With the likes of Sweden, Poland and Italy all getting pissed off with the EU, we won’t be the only ones leaving the corrupted pile of garbage, AKA EU!

Throw troubles in Turkey into the mix too

Oh, the Pro EU gang seem to have missed the news about yet another 'loan' to Greece . . to enable them to 'manage' their debt better

Mebbe Airbus could relocate to Greece and help them out

[heero_yuy]

If Airbus try to decamp the government should demand back the 100's of £millions they were given to set up here.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Yes a French company, picking up the scraps the failed British Carillon. Not exactly a British success story or vote of confidence, just an opportunity to make money where we've failed.

Anyway the French don't want the Third World on their border. How are they going to turn back the tide of British immigrants (like Brexiteer Lord Lawson !) Close the tunnel now if I were them

Lol, a French-owned pothole repairing company buying British competitors due to the low pound is hardly a replacement for thousands of skilled aircraft makers!

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Protesters to march on anniversary to demand second referendum.

Traitors at the event will include Tory rebel Anna Soubry, Labour MP David Lammy and Green Party co-leader Caroline Lucas.

Businesswoman Gina Miller, who took the Government to court over Brexit, will also give a speech in favour of a second third or even fourth referendum until she gets the answer she wants.

The real story here
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...my-Gina-Miller

I appreciate you may have a slight hangover from yesterday's celebrations Papa but I'm not sure traitors is a term we use here.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Lol, a French-owned pothole repairing company buying British competitors due to the low pound is hardly a replacement for thousands of skilled aircraft makers!

Who can be redeployed to build planes for Britain or to build foreign planes we might wish to buy.

You need to respect the Brexit vote whether or not you like it. That's our democratic system.