Global warming 'past the point of no return'

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by danielf

You need to have sex first Gary...

I bet you've not long learned that.

Originally Posted by Gary L

We'll be too dead to care

I agree 100%, but it is good manners to try to leave the place tidy behind us.

[Gary L]

Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze

I agree 100%, but it is good manners to try to leave the place tidy behind us.

I'm sure God or a meteorite will sort out what needs to be done

I was reading the other day that the earth has gone through I think 9 stages of big change due to meteorites (a great big stone)
we could all live in the dark ages for the sake of saving the planet, and find all our efforts destroyed just like that

The basis of risk analysis* is likelyhood and impact - so the impact (in so many different ways) of a meteorite hitting earth is high, the likelyhood is extremely low; whilst the impact of Climate Change is medium-high, and the likelyhood is medium-high, this equates to a higher risk than a rock from space.

However, if you have concerns about another dinosaur-killer coming along, you may find this useful.

btw, it's not about living in the dark ages, it's just about making adjustments to mitigate the risk.

*Risk Analysis consists of
(1) Identification of possible negative external and internal conditions, events, or situations
(2) Determination of cause-and-effect (causal) relationships between probable happenings, their magnitude, and likely outcomes
(3) Evaluation of various outcomes under different assumptions, and under different probabilities that each outcome will take place
(4) Application of qualitative and quantitative techniques to reduce uncertainty of the outcomes and associated costs, liabilities, or losses.

[Gary L]

They were fooling us all along

Hackers have broken into the data base of the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit - one of the world’s leading alarmist centres - and put the files they stole on the Internet, on the grounds that the science is too important to be kept under wraps.
The ethics of this are dubious, to say the least. But the files suggest, on a very preliminary glance, some other very dubious practices, too, and a lot of collusion - sometimes called “peer review�. Or even conspiracy.
A warning, of course. We can only say with a 90 per cent confidence interval that these emails are real.

Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
Once Tim’s got a diagram here we’ll send that either later today or first thing tomorrow.
I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline. Mike’s series got the annual land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999 for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.


Warmist conspiracy exposed? | Herald Sun Andrew Bolt Blog

[Gary L]

Open Letter to Climate Change Minister Nick Smith

From retired climate scientist Dr Gerrit van der Lingen, of Christchurch
16 October 2009

Dear Nick

I am very disappointed about your actions in your global warming portfolio. You heard my two lectures on this subject at the Summer Sounds Symposia of 2003 and 2006. Because there is no scientific evidence whatsoever that human greenhouse gas emissions are causing catastrophic global warming, thousands of scientists consider this the biggest scam in human history. My wife Marianne and I last talked to you at the pre-dinner drinks at the Annual Conference of Architectural Designers last year. We discussed global warming and you said that you agreed with me. Your actions prove the opposite.

Your support of this scam is bound to backfire on you. There are many signs that the bubble is bursting. The planet has been cooling for the last decade. Peer-reviewed publications are suggesting that we may be in for a cooling period that could last several decades. This has caused warmaholics to panic. They are reacting shriller and shriller. Propaganda temperatures have increased substantially in the lead-up to the Copenhagen conference.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0911/S00214.htm

The scam has been busted.

[nomadking]

IIRC there have been two separate recent nature/wildlife programs on BBC TV where the narrator said that conditions were the coldest on record.

[Tarantella]

Global warming is a crappy and imprecise term.


However climate change means climate change and that involves increased instability in climate and weather patterns before settling down again at some indefinite point in the future. For the British Isles, kept warm by the gulf stream, climate change might very well mean we will first subject to colder, possibly wetter conditions.

Originally Posted by Gary L

Open Letter to Climate Change Minister Nick Smith

From retired climate scientist Dr Gerrit van der Lingen, of Christchurch
16 October 2009



http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO0911/S00214.htm

The scam has been busted.

Link

According to a search of 22,000 academic journals, Van der Lingen has not published any research in a peer-reviewed journal on the subject of climate change. Google scholar shows two articles published in the 1970s. Van der Lingen describes himself as a geologist/paleoclimatologist and climate change consultant

[danielf]

There's a paper entitled "Late Quaternary ostracod and planktonic foraminiferal dissolution signals from the eastern Tasman Sea - palaeoenvironmental implications" in the 1994 International Workshop on the Late Quaternary Palaeoceanography of the Australasian Region. Gripping stuff

I'm waiting for the film to come out.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

I'm waiting for the film to come out.

at the moment my house is 300 meters from the beach, if global warming is actually happening and the seas rise i will soon be living in a beach side property and i can keep my cabin cruiser in the garden .

Something to look forward to, then.

[chris9991]

Here they go again

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8375576.stm

[injuneer]

It's the poorer countries which will suffer most, then you'll have a massive refugee problem heading our way.