Pandemic (Swine) Flu

[Raistlin]

Originally Posted by Matt D

Masks are for wusses. I'm gonna order one of these:

Looking good there Matt

[Derek]

I'm getting ready for work as well

Wuss - get yourself one of these...

[Sir John Luke]

Looks like the WHO must be part of the conspiracy (or could it be they are NOT part of the alarmist media?)

"Swine influenza - update 5

29 April 2009 -- The situation continues to evolve rapidly. As of 18:00 GMT, 29 April 2009, nine countries have officially reported 148 cases of swine influenza A/H1N1 infection. The United States Government has reported 91 laboratory confirmed human cases, with one death. Mexico has reported 26 confirmed human cases of infection including seven deaths.

The following countries have reported laboratory confirmed cases with no deaths - Austria (1), Canada (13), Germany (3), Israel (2), New Zealand (3), Spain (4) and the United Kingdom (5).

Further information on the situation will be available on the WHO website on a regular basis.

WHO advises no restriction of regular travel or closure of borders. It is considered prudent for people who are ill to delay international travel and for people developing symptoms following international travel to seek medical attention, in line with guidance from national authorities.

There is also no risk of infection from this virus from consumption of well-cooked pork and pork products. Individuals are advised to wash hands thoroughly with soap and water on a regular basis and should seek medical attention if they develop any symptoms of influenza-like illness.

[chaos23]

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Ahem - note the post above yours......

And for further clarification, here are the levels defined

"Phase 1 no viruses circulating among animals have been reported to cause infections in humans.

In Phase 2 an animal influenza virus circulating among domesticated or wild animals is known to have caused infection in humans, and is therefore considered a potential pandemic threat.

In Phase 3, an animal or human-animal influenza reassortant virus has caused sporadic cases or small clusters of disease in people, but has not resulted in human-to-human transmission sufficient to sustain community-level outbreaks. Limited human-to-human transmission may occur under some circumstances, for example, when there is close contact between an infected person and an unprotected caregiver. However, limited transmission under such restricted circumstances does not indicate that the virus has gained the level of transmissibility among humans necessary to cause a pandemic.

Phase 4 is characterized by verified human-to-human transmission of an animal or human-animal influenza reassortant virus able to cause “community-level outbreaks.� The ability to cause sustained disease outbreaks in a community marks a significant upwards shift in the risk for a pandemic. Any country that suspects or has verified such an event should urgently consult with WHO so that the situation can be jointly assessed and a decision made by the affected country if implementation of a rapid pandemic containment operation is warranted. Phase 4 indicates a significant increase in risk of a pandemic but does not necessarily mean that a pandemic is a forgone conclusion.

Phase 5 is characterized by human-to-human spread of the virus into at least two countries in one WHO region. While most countries will not be affected at this stage, the declaration of Phase 5 is a strong signal that a pandemic is imminent and that the time to finalize the organization, communication, and implementation of the planned mitigation measures is short.

Phase 6, the pandemic phase, is characterized by community level outbreaks in at least one other country in a different WHO region in addition to the criteria defined in Phase 5. Designation of this phase will indicate that a global pandemic is under way."

Who is this post directed at?

The person who had posted the post just before (and after) my post - I was pointing out they had repeated what I had just posted about the Pandemic Level being raised.

Originally Posted by foreverwar

Consider yourself unsurprised.....

It's Political Correctness gone sane, I tell you!

Linky

"The World Health Organisation (WHO) has said that the most recent research on swine flu has shown that the virus is not caused by pigs. The disease is now being referred to as Mexican flu or "2009 H1N1 flu". The WHO has moved the pandemic alert from four to five, the second highest. The first case of what was called swine flu was reported in Mexico and its first fatality was confirmed there two weeks ago.

The 23-month-old infant who died in the US state of Texas, in the first fatal case from the swine flu outbreak in the United States, was also Mexican. The child came from Mexico to Houston for medical treatment, officials said."

Originally Posted by chaos23

They are raising the pandemic level to 5.

just a reminder that anyone coming out in rashers due to swine flu can get some relief with pork scratchings

[Tezcatlipoca]

That is a very handy reminder.


Hopefully this snoutbreak will not get worse & lead to an Aporkalypse.

[SB_07]

So considering the only people to die of this so far are Mexican hispanics (yet it has spread to over 10 other countries now), makes me think about 'the project for a new American century' which stated that they wanted to create race-specific bio weapons.

Go look it up.

The project for a new American century is some scary reading (a plan written up by the Bush administration)

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Just a little piece to back that up:

The U.S. military-industrial complex’s interest in race-specific bio-weapons as a tool of warfare is not a paranoid conspiracy theory - it’s outlined in their own public documents.

“Advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool,” stated the September 2000 Rebuilding America’s Defenses report released by the Project For A New American Century - the ideological framework of the Bush administration.

In 2006, Armed Forces Journal, a mouthpiece for the military-industrial complex, carried a military strategy plan written by retired Major Ralph Peters which called for “ethnic cleansing” to be instituted in the Middle East so that the region could easily be dominated by the joint interests of Israel and the United States.

Originally Posted by Matt D

That is a very handy reminder.


Hopefully this snoutbreak will not get worse & lead to an Aporkalypse.

well what goes rind, comes rind - well until we get boared with it, anyway ...

[Tezcatlipoca]

I know of PNAC, regarding Iraq etc.

I still consider the whole bioweapon angle to be utter nonsense though.


What's the healthcare system like in Mexico compared to the UK etc? What about the overall public health system? Poverty levels?

Also, the actual number of confirmed deaths is still very low (seven). Do we know anything about the victims who died? They could be the kind of people who would also have been at risk from "normal" seasonal influenza.

[chaos23]

Originally Posted by SB_07

So considering the only people to die of this so far are Mexican hispanics (yet it has spread to over 10 other countries now), makes me think about 'the project for a new American century' which stated that they wanted to create race-specific bio weapons.

Go look it up.

The project for a new American century is some scary reading (a plan written up by the Bush administration)

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Just a little piece to back that up:

Its wasted on this lot mate. They dont have a clue. Some of them are denying we have a serious problem on our hands.

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Originally Posted by Matt D

I know of PNAC, regarding Iraq etc.

I still consider the whole bioweapon angle to be utter nonsense though.


What's the healthcare system like in Mexico compared to the UK etc? What about the overall public health system? Poverty levels?

Also, the actual number of confirmed deaths is still very low (seven). Do we know anything about the victims who died? They could be the kind of people who would also have been at risk from "normal" seasonal influenza.

Do you deny tht the US government makes bio weapons?

The U.S. military-industrial complex’s interest in race-specific bio-weapons as a tool of warfare is not a paranoid conspiracy theory - it’s outlined in their own public documents.

“Advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool,� stated the September 2000 Rebuilding America’s Defenses report released by the Project For A New American Century - the ideological framework of the Bush administration.

In 2006, Armed Forces Journal, a mouthpiece for the military-industrial complex, carried a military strategy plan written by retired Major Ralph Peters which called for “ethnic cleansing� to be instituted in the Middle East so that the region could easily be dominated by the joint interests of Israel and the United States.

Originally Posted by chaos23

Its wasted on this lot mate. They dont have a clue. Some of them are denying we have a serious problem on our hands.

When the facts support your "theory" about the serious problem, we will probably take it seriously - but at the moment, more people have probably died laughing at conspiracy theories than have died from Mexican Flu (imho).

[SB_07]

Originally Posted by Matt D

I know of PNAC, regarding Iraq etc.

I still consider the whole bioweapon angle to be utter nonsense though.


What's the healthcare system like in Mexico compared to the UK etc? What about the overall public health system? Poverty levels?

Also, the actual number of confirmed deaths is still very low (seven). Do we know anything about the victims who died? They could be the kind of people who would also have been at risk from "normal" seasonal influenza.

In the area where it started in Mexico probably has pretty poor healthcare BUT it's still pretty strange how non-Mexicans have only really had mild symptoms.

I don't take it as a guarantee that it's been started on purpose but i like to look at it from both sides.

Originally Posted by chaos23

Its wasted on this lot mate. They dont have a clue. Some of them are denying we have a serious problem on our hands.

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Do you deny tht the US government makes bio weapons?

Boeing and Airbus make planes - does that mean Boeing and Airbus planned and carried out 9/11?