General : Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2016) Vol 2

[Chad]

Originally Posted by ozsat

The last line of the link you posted says "*This deal currently does not include Virgin Media customers" Hopefully a deal will be done by January.

It also said that PPV events will only be available as PPV - and HD subscribers will still get HD.

Thing is PPV events are currently free to BoxNation HD subscribers.

Yeah it's a complicated deal.

My understanding is that there will be PPV's next year for the likes of Golovkin Vs. Saunders and Mayweather Vs. Pacquaio II. Possibly 4 PPV's per year going forward for the biggest domestic and international cards.

Boxnation subscribers on SKY will get these shows included as part of their subscription at no extra cost on the Boxnation HD / Boxnation Box Office channel. Those who get Boxnation as part of the BT Sports pack, rather than subscribing directly from Boxnation, from January will not get these PPV shows as part of their package and will need to pay the PPV fee to watch.

"The ground-breaking deal will see a further ten events per year, including top tier pay-per-view events and other high-quality domestic shows broadcast, exclusively on BoxNation."

It's messy but clearly something will need to change on the Virgin Media platform to facilitate the PPV shows.

[johnasimmons]

Originally Posted by Chad

Yeah it's a complicated deal.

My understanding is that there will be PPV's next year for the likes of Golovkin Vs. Saunders and Mayweather Vs. Pacquaio II. Possibly 4 PPV's per year going forward for the biggest domestic and international cards.

Boxnation subscribers on SKY will get these shows included as part of their subscription at no extra cost on the Boxnation HD / Boxnation Box Office channel. Those who get Boxnation as part of the BT Sports pack, rather than subscribing directly from Boxnation, from January will not get these PPV shows as part of their package and will need to pay the PPV fee to watch.

"The ground-breaking deal will see a further ten events per year, including top tier pay-per-view events and other high-quality domestic shows broadcast, exclusively on BoxNation."




It's messy but clearly something will need to change on the Virgin Media platform to facilitate the PPV shows.

I suppose it will be a 'wait & see' for us VM customers Chad...

[denphone]

Originally Posted by johnasimmons

I suppose it will be a 'wait & see' for us VM customers Chad...

Well that's nothing unusual given Virgin's track record John.

[Chad]

Originally Posted by johnasimmons

I suppose it will be a 'wait & see' for us VM customers Chad...

I'm sure something will be in the mix.

This is an interesting read:

http://www.totalsportek.com/money/bo...eal-bt-sports/

The deal between BT Sports and Boxnation is reportedly worth £100 million over the next 2 years.

[muppetman11]

My fear is BT are looking to increase prices for its Sports channels now that the new contract with the Premier League has kicked in , adding Boxnation as part of BT Sport could soften the blow for some.

[Pster72]

What's the latest on the cock it that was the Amazon app surely there not going to wait for the new TiVo to come out as the original TiVo should have the capacity to carry the app

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Pster72

What's the latest on the cock it that was the Amazon app surely there not going to wait for the new TiVo to come out as the original TiVo should have the capacity to carry the app

There was no commitment by Virgin Media to launch Amazon at this time. This story emanated from contributors to Cable Forum.

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Originally Posted by denphone

So you think Sky will have Netflix on their platform then OB?

My personal view is that Sky should carry Netflix because this will give Sky satellite subscribers access to a bigger range of content from their box, making the whole service more attractive.

That certainly appears to be John Malone's view in respect of cable services, but I think Sky will be dragged kicking and screaming towards this same conclusion. The reason? Because other operators like VM and BT offer the service. Of course, Sky want to channel all their subscribers into watching Sky broadcasts, but competition will force them into accepting this inevitable step forward. They were latecomers to 'on demand' viewing for the same reasons. So my belief is that Netflix and Amazon will eventually come to Sky - the only question is how long can they hold out?

I don't see any conflict with Now TV, Den. That service is aimed at people who don't subscribe to Sky satellite services.

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Originally Posted by bluecandylover

I doubt also that Sky will ever get Netflix as they'll want people going for Sky Cinema rather than elsewhere!

There is a fault with this logic. If their customers want Netflix, they will subscribe to it anyway. For example, my eldest daughter has Sky but also subscribes to Netflix and Amazon.

If Sky provided these services on their own box, it would be likely to attract more customers.

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Originally Posted by passingbat

Netflix show relatively old films (with a few exceptions). Sky cinema gives you access to the most recent released for streaming films.

That will only last until existing rights Sky have with all the major film studios expire.

Netflix have a good range of original TV series as well as a back catalogue of films and TV programmes. The films aren't that old!

[muppetman11]

Sorry OB but that's your poor understanding of technology , the reason cable had On Demand long before Sky is the fact that cable is two way satellite is not. Satellite providers had more technical challenges to overcome before releasing an On Demand product.

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

My fear is BT are looking to increase prices for its Sports channels now that the new contract with the Premier League has kicked in , adding Boxnation as part of BT Sport could soften the blow for some.

i fear this too, this is only from sales staff so take it with linch of salt but when the football league bidding comes around again bt are going for that too.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by theone2k10

i fear this too, this is only from sales staff so take it with linch of salt but when the football league bidding comes around again bt are going for that too.

As we know prices never decrease but always go up and that will sadly be the case going forward.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Sorry OB but that's your poor understanding of technology , the reason cable had On Demand long before Sky is the fact that cable is two way satellite is not. Satellite providers had more technical challenges to overcome before releasing an On Demand product.

Yes, I understand that, but a workaround was available via an internet connection. I believe that Sky chose not to pursue on demand more vigorously as it would impact on their advertising revenues. Eventually, they had to embrace on demand, otherwise they would have been left behind.

[theone2k10]

Originally Posted by denphone

As we know prices never decrease but always go up and that will sadly be the case going forward.

Very true i might tease you lot about vms price rises but the reality is all companies do it.

[muppetman11]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Yes, I understand that, but a workaround was available via an internet connection. I believe that Sky chose not to pursue on demand more vigorously as it would impact on their advertising revenues. Eventually, they had to embrace on demand, otherwise they would have been left behind.

Ad revenues for them are miniscule when compared to subscriptions , there's only so much you can do on a slow broadband line. Openreach didn't publicly launch a FTTC product until 2010.

[spiderplant]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Yes, I understand that, but a workaround was available via an internet connection. I believe that Sky chose not to pursue on demand more vigorously as it would impact on their advertising revenues. Eventually, they had to embrace on demand, otherwise they would have been left behind.

mm is spot on. Sky could only do VOD once enough of their customers had a suitably-fast internet connection and also Sky HD, which IIRC was their first box to have an ethernet port.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by ozsat

The last line of the link you posted says "*This deal currently does not include Virgin Media customers" Hopefully a deal will be done by January.

Well spotted. Hopefully the word "currently" carries some weight.

Maybe this is why Boxnation HD was never added to VM as we won't need it if it's carried on BT Sport?