[Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
13-06-2016, 18:32
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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No the situation has considerably improved in recent years.
2008 and it's aftermath is what caused the problem. The economy isn't some conspiracy from elitist bankers, it has real ramifications for people. |
in reality our local youngsters can't get work because there not polish
nice wiggly line all though i fear it won't put food on the table here in the real word .
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13-06-2016, 18:36
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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in reality our local youngsters can't get work because there not polish
nice wiggly line all though i fear it won't put food on the table here in the real word .
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The 'wiggly' line is how many people are employed or not. Youth unemployment is down dramatically from 2008 but the economy impacts on jobs.
This is what is so frustrating about Brexit. There are legitimate concerns that you all dismiss as not being in the 'real world', unemployment statistics aren't real, the experts aren't real. The only thing that is real is assertions based on 'common sense' without any evidence.
That isn't to say there will be an economic hit but if there is then people will be harmed by that. The economy is a real thing. That is what is concerned about it.
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13-06-2016, 18:52
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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The 'wiggly' line is how many people are employed or not. Youth unemployment is down dramatically from 2008 but the economy impacts on jobs.
This is what is so frustrating about Brexit. There are legitimate concerns that you all dismiss as not being in the 'real world', unemployment statistics aren't real, the experts aren't real. The only thing that is real is assertions based on 'common sense' without any evidence.
That isn't to say there will be an economic hit but if there is then people will be harmed by that. The economy is a real thing. That is what is concerned about it.
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if you don't have a job/ don't have your own home /can't afford to start a family, get no help from the state and feel abandoned what exactly do you have to lose from exiting this failed experiment .
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13-06-2016, 19:17
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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if you don't have a job/ don't have your own home /can't afford to start a family, get no help from the state and feel abandoned what exactly do you have to lose from exiting this failed experiment .
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And the magic fairy dust from Brexit is going to fix all this, is it?
If we vote out, are we going to expel all the foreign workers who are "stealing" all these jobs?
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13-06-2016, 19:27
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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And the magic fairy dust from Brexit is going to fix all this, is it?
If we vote out, are we going to expel all the foreign workers who are "stealing" all these jobs?
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i was actually pointing out the younger generation has nothing to lose because the have nothing to start with ,perhaps a liberal dousing in remain in the gutter dust might make it all go away .
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13-06-2016, 19:28
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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in reality our local youngsters can't get work because there not polish
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It is this kind of misinformation, fuelled by the right wing media, that will win the critical votes .. 
Why would the Polish worker gets the job instead of the deserving "British" one?
Maybe they:
- work harder?
- do a better job?
- are willing to accept the pay that the BRITISH employer sets?
- are more punctual?
who knows ..
In the Brexit Nirvana, of course these "youngsters" will gleefully take the jobs that the poor old Poles are no longer able to do, won't they? The jobs they currently are choosing not to compete for ..
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13-06-2016, 19:36
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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It is this kind of misinformation, fuelled by the right wing media, that will win the critical votes ..
Why would the Polish worker gets the job instead of the deserving "British" one?
Maybe they:
- work harder?
- do a better job?
- are willing to accept the pay that the BRITISH employer sets?
- are more punctual?
who knows ..
In the Brexit Nirvana, of course these "youngsters" will gleefully take the jobs that the poor old Poles are no longer able to do, won't they? The jobs they currently are choosing not to compete for .. |
in the remain nirvana they are just the lost generation abandoned for a failed social experiment .
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13-06-2016, 19:36
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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i was actually pointing out the younger generation has nothing to lose because the have nothing to start with ,perhaps a liberal dousing in remain in the gutter dust might make it all go away .
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Young people do have something to lose. Economy slows > jobs reduce.
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13-06-2016, 19:39
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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in reality our local youngsters can't get work because there not polish .
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You want to upgrade from reading the Express. Try the Beano...
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13-06-2016, 19:45
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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Young people do have something to lose. Economy slows > jobs reduce.
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no jobs minus some jobs still = no jobs' if you have no job and depend on the kindness of family for a roof over your head and food on your plate/clothes on your back your not affected by the economy as your not in it .
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i think it would just go over your head if i posted from it .
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13-06-2016, 19:48
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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no jobs minus some jobs still = no jobs' if you have no job and depend on the kindness of family for a roof over your head and food on your plate/clothes on your back your not affected by the economy as your not in it
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But there are jobs. Employment is relatively low. If the economy slows the amount of jobs decrease.
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13-06-2016, 19:55
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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But there are jobs. Employment is relatively low. If the economy slows the amount of jobs decrease.
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lets have a go at making employment relatively high and loose the negativity that if hanging around your neck is weighing us all down try a good dose of when the economy grows .
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13-06-2016, 20:02
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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If there's a recession even remain say it will be a mini recession and only last 2 quarters.
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There's no way they could know that, but if a Brexit does trigger a global meltdown it will last longer than six months.
There's lots of risks out there, Greece being an obvious one, but the French and German banking system is not as healthy as it may seem.
China is a nuclear financial bomb waiting to explode. Who can tell how healthy their banking and economic system is when their whole system is so corrupt?
There are a lot of unknowns, but I believe there are a lot of unknowns by staying in the EU and I vote out.
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13-06-2016, 20:11
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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If the remain side does win, in a few years time, I think there could be a lot of people wishing that they had read the Express.
The Express, to say the least, can be sensationalist, but leaving that aside, there is truth behind many of the things they say. After all, much of it lines up with the stated aims of the hierarchy behind the EU.
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13-06-2016, 20:16
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU
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lets have a go at making employment relatively high and loose the negativity that if hanging around your neck is weighing us all down try a good dose of when the economy grows .
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I meant unemployment is relatively low obviously. Slowly down the economy would only increase it though. People seem to think what happens with the economy is divorced from day to day life but it isn't.
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