120M Virgin Media 150Mb Coming 2014 - Page 20

qasdfdsaq · 04-12-2013, 00:40

Looks like the whole 10:1 thing has been quietly dropped.

Not only do we not have confirmation of when it'll be coming to the existing tariffs (30/2, 60/3, 100/5) we do have confirmation it will *not* be coming to the new tariffs "for now" - I hope that doesn't mean we'll end up with 50/2 100/3 150/5?!

Horizon · 04-12-2013, 00:47

My suspicion is that vm will always limit upload speeds as a way of controlling file sharing. Hence why vm are using Netflix as a way of encouraging folk away from the illegal route.

broadbandking · 04-12-2013, 01:09

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq

Looks like the whole 10:1 thing has been quietly dropped.

Not only do we not have confirmation of when it'll be coming to the existing tariffs (30/2, 60/3, 100/5) we do have confirmation it will *not* be coming to the new tariffs "for now" - I hope that doesn't mean we'll end up with 50/2 100/3 150/5?!

Strange how the 120Mb already has 12Mb upload.

Chrysalis · 04-12-2013, 01:49

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Originally Posted by broadbandking

Strange how the 120Mb already has 12Mb upload.

yeah but you cant treat 120 as the standard, the bulk of VM customers are not on the 120 product they are on 30/2 or whatever that tier is now.

A Dave · 04-12-2013, 02:34

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Originally Posted by Mr K

I'm on 30MB with a 2MB upload - we were promised long ago it should be a 10:1 ration ie. 30/3 MB.

Well, analysing the results of all my TBB speed tests between March and the end of November, I find that VM are actually delivering something very close to a 10:1 ratio. Whilst my upload speed is consistently close to the promised 2Mb/s with an average of 1.923Mb/s, the download results often fall well below the 30Mb/s target with averages for the TBBX1 and HTTPX6 tests coming out at only 20.705Mb/s and 17.364Mb/s respectively. So that works out to give ratios of 10.77:1 and 9.03:1

craigj2k12 · 04-12-2013, 03:54

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Originally Posted by A Dave

Well, analysing the results of all my TBB speed tests between March and the end of November, I find that VM are actually delivering something very close to a 10:1 ratio. Whilst my upload speed is consistently close to the promised 2Mb/s with an average of 1.923Mb/s, the download results often fall well below the 30Mb/s target with averages for the TBBX1 and HTTPX6 tests coming out at only 20.705Mb/s and 17.364Mb/s respectively. So that works out to give ratios of 10.77:1 and 9.03:1

Oh yeah, thats a good thing then?

qasdfdsaq · 04-12-2013, 16:35

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Originally Posted by broadbandking

Strange how the 120Mb already has 12Mb upload.

Strange how not everybody can get 120Mb

General Maximus · 04-12-2013, 16:52

yup, they sure are taking their time with it which is a bit of a joke considering they are supposed to be rolling out 150mbits in the not too distant future. You would have thought that someone higher up would have put their foot down and said they want it all wrapped up before xmas to put a close to it.

kwikbreaks · 04-12-2013, 17:18

You seem to be forgetting - promises cost nothing but network upgrades are more expensive.

Kushan · 04-12-2013, 17:42

Also I do wonder who generates the most upload bandwidth use, the 30meg customers or the 120meg customers.

kwikbreaks · 04-12-2013, 18:04

Do you mean per user or overall?

Overall it has to be the 30Mbps customers as they are so more numerous.

Per user I imagine it must be that higher tier customers use more bandwidth both up and down.

If that isn't the case I'd be pretty surprised.

Kushan · 04-12-2013, 18:36

I meant overall. As you say, 30meg customers outnumber 120meg customers by quite some degree. No doubt Virgin requires a lot more upgrades on the upstream before they can increase bandwidth there. How many have seen 64QAM upstream channels? Not many, but they are happening.

StevenNT · 04-12-2013, 19:23

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Originally Posted by Kushan

How many have seen 64QAM upstream channels? Not many, but they are happening.

So when I get 64QAM then the upload on my 60Mb tier should be increased some time after?

Does not make sense when the 120Mb tier can do 12 up, unless I'm missing an aspect of it?

Kushan · 04-12-2013, 20:53

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Originally Posted by StevenNT

So when I get 64QAM then the upload on my 60Mb tier should be increased some time after?

Does not make sense when the 120Mb tier can do 12 up, unless I'm missing an aspect of it?

Well, assuming that they're still planning on rolling out the 10:1, then the bit you're missing is that there are a lot less 120Meg customers out there than there are 60meg and 30meg customers. It's the total bandwidth required for all customers that makes the difference and naturally higher tiers will benefit first.

As for the 64QAM part, that's just what I know they're doing in terms of network upgrades as a couple of people have that already, but it could be completely unrelated to any upgrades to upload speeds.

Sephiroth · 04-12-2013, 22:00

I'm sure that in the fullness of time (and not too long at that), you'll see 3 or 4 upstream channels which means an uplift of speed. VM have other means at their disposal including releasing bandwidth from legacy or lower tier services and then increasing the upper tier upstream bandwidth from 6.4 MHz.