[Merged] CR3-Feedback & Questions in Here Please.

[andygrif]

Originally Posted by browneggsandham

That has been an issue with BCR3, though you'd think they would have made sure it wasn't there in LCR3 wouldn't you

Have you tried rebooting your box??? That tends to solve it down here.

Browneggsandham

Thanks, yes I'm doing a lot of rebooting! That cures the problem for a few days, then seems to forget to get the listings again.

[eoin.miskell]

So is there any update on when hemel is getting LCR3?

[dre101]

does anyone know when LCR3 is coming to nottingham?

I read on DS that it was around june, is that right?

[browneggsandham]

Originally Posted by dre101

does anyone know when LCR3 is coming to nottingham?

I read on DS that it was around june, is that right?

Actually, in 3 days, on May 6th.

Browneggsandham

SOURCE: http://dtv.ukpcnet.co.uk/forum/viewt...5581e6764cf233

[ntlrocks]

apparently the whole lanlgey upgrade will be finished by the middle of this month, according to someone on digital spy

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by ntlrocks

apparently the whole lanlgey upgrade will be finished by the middle of this month, according to someone on digital spy

Will the performance improve when the roll out is done?
Does the bandwidth used sending out the software degrade the performance?

Can I have the speed of CR2 back? :o

Can I have a remote control that has feedback that is not measured in 10th of seconds?

Thinking of Sky+ and second STB Stephen.

[ntlrocks]

the performance is supposed to improve, ask someone like proppin' though

[Big Ted]

Got my booklet this morning, so Reading is on the way (hopefully, 'cos ch 120 is still showing broadband adverts)

[Nor]

Dunno why everyone is so anxious to get it. Its completely crap and as soon as you've updated you'll wish to god you had the old epg back.

[Nor]

Originally Posted by SMHarman

Thinking of Sky+ and second STB Stephen.

I'm seriously considering moving to Sky now. I've been with NTL for about 4 years now, pay £115 a month to them for all the gubbinz. But this new EPG just runs like a dog and no end in sight. It makes organising program viewing a complete nightmare and no joke I've reverted back to using the newspaper to find out whats on. Its the proverbial straw.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Nor

Dunno why everyone is so anxious to get it. Its completely crap and as soon as you've updated you'll wish to god you had the old epg back.

Well I prefer it and my parents (who aren't exactly techno-phobes but wouldn't be rushing to set a video) like it. They have actually started using the guide which they never did on CR2.

[Nor]

Fair enough. My dad likes it too. But I think thats because he's never really used the onscreen guides that much so quite likes to just have something different.

In simple terms, it doesn't do the job its required to do. I want to see whats on quickly and the new epg only allows me to see things slowly and with the added annoyance of if being as far from intuitive as is possible. God only knows who tests these things before they are released.

[Tristan]

About 1.5 million Bromley and Telewest customers tested the basic layout and functionality (what button does what, etc). I can't comment on the speed, but the design is sound. You just have to get used to it.

[bigitup_j]

the layout and design, and the function of the buttons, on CR3 is excellent. it makes sense, there maybe a few problems but i'm sure these will be fixed soon!

[Nor]

You now how you say 1.5 million people tested it. What was the reporting procedure to get opinions and feedback from those 1.5 million people. Also, please don't tell me that I just have to get used to it. Its nothing to do with 'getting used' to a new layout and funtionality. Its about having to live with an EPG where its quicker to get the radio times than use it notwithstanding the functionality issues.

[Tristan]

Originally Posted by Nor

You now how you say 1.5 million people tested it. What was the reporting procedure to get opinions and feedback from those 1.5 million people. Also, please don't tell me that I just have to get used to it. Its nothing to do with 'getting used' to a new layout and funtionality. Its about having to live with an EPG where its quicker to get the radio times than use it notwithstanding the functionality issues.

Okay, yes, I was being a little glib. What I should have said was, 1.5 million or so people use software which is the same in terms of which button does what on the mini-guide and so forth. The Telewest favourites system is a bit different, and they only have one day's worth of listings in their TV guide, but anyway...

The point I was trying to make is that a great many people use equivelent software every day without any bother at all. It's all about what you're used to. To me, CR3 seems very simple to use; press TV wherever you are to get back to fullscreen viewing, and when it's fullscreen, press TV to bring up the miniguide. Press i, or Browse on old Langley remotes, to see a synopsis for whatever programme you have highlighted in whatever menu you're in. If there are no menus onscreen, it brings up the programme you're currently watching. I can't for the life of me see how that's a difficult to use system, or how it's confusing, but there you go.

Anyway, I'm kind of curious now. Imagine that your guide gathered data as it should, and that the speed is adequate, and so forth. Imagine CR3 is working as it should, basically. Now, aside for the fact you can't scroll up and down the channel list in 100s (which would be a bit odd with the new favourites system, and wouldn't really work with the goal of consistancy across all menus), what exactly is wrong with the fundemental design of it?

[1701-e]

I think you've 3 balls sir!!!

[Tristan]

Originally Posted by 1701-e

I think you've 3 balls sir!!!

Quite right! Consider it amended

[Nor]

Originally Posted by Tristan

Okay, yes, I was being a little glib. What I should have said was, 1.5 million or so people use software which is the same in terms of which button does what on the mini-guide and so forth. The Telewest favourites system is a bit different, and they only have one day's worth of listings in their TV guide, but anyway...

The point I was trying to make is that a great many people use equivelent software every day without any bother at all. It's all about what you're used to. To me, CR3 seems very simple to use; press TV wherever you are to get back to fullscreen viewing, and when it's fullscreen, press TV to bring up the miniguide. Press i, or Browse on old Langley remotes, to see a synopsis for whatever programme you have highlighted in whatever menu you're in. If there are no menus onscreen, it brings up the programme you're currently watching. I can't for the life of me see how that's a difficult to use system, or how it's confusing, but there you go.

Anyway, I'm kind of curious now. Imagine that your guide gathered data as it should, and that the speed is adequate, and so forth. Imagine CR3 is working as it should, basically. Now, aside for the fact you can't scroll up and down the channel list in 100s (which would be a bit odd with the new favourites system, and wouldn't really work with the goal of consistancy across all menus), what exactly is wrong with the fundemental design of it?

Speed is the main factor for me. You say ignore that and talk about the design, but surely this new fancy, more complicated design has impacted on speed ? So why are they rolling out a design that the cpu power of the box can't cope with ? I used to be able to get the diary up instantly, now I have a please wait sign for 9 seconds.

To pinpoint a couple of design/fuctionality issues not connected with speed. The scrolling in 100s as you've mentioned. I'm not a great fan of the full guide either, I prefered being able to see what was on an entire channel for the evening, then I click arrowed down and it showed me the whole next channel. Currently I see only half the movie channels, have to scroll along loads to find out whats exactly on that night. Then go to the next lot of movie channels and start all over again. Notwithstanding the fact that it moves sooooo slowly even if it was like lightening it'd still be slower and less easy to find out whats on all night. Also takes up far too much of the screen and for such an intrusive EPG its not customisable enough. Have to laugh at who selected the reminder noise notifications too, you couldn't get more unfriendly and annoying reminders (yes I do realise you can turn them off, but who thinks these things are good to include them in the first place). Also in the main guide, it doesn't actually tell you when programs start. If its not on the hour of half hour you have to guess what time it starts or goto the bother of clicking it to find out.

Also not keen on the mini guide which forwards 2 programs at a time. Which also incidently leaves you highlighting the second one. The main problem is the speed though and in all honestly its quicker to grab the radio times than to use the guide.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Nor

I prefered being able to see what was on an entire channel for the evening, then I click arrowed down and it showed me the whole next channel. Currently I see only half the movie channels, have to scroll along loads to find out whats exactly on that night. Then go to the next lot of movie channels and start all over again.

You can use the favourites section. It works almost the same as the old guide (plus you can use the PageUp/Down buttons to jump down the screen)
You access this by pressing yellow from the mini-guide

Originally Posted by Nor

Have to laugh at who selected the reminder noise notifications too, you couldn't get more unfriendly and annoying reminders (yes I do realise you can turn them off, but who thinks these things are good to include them in the first place)

Now if you are in another room you can tell if a reminder has appeared. I use it if I'm getting some food. The sounds might be annoying to some but what would you have put there?