The Blair Goverment - Page 2

Martin · 05-07-2003, 01:37

Political parties all seem to be the same to me! All promise the earth and give nothing

Labours in now but who is the competition? The Tories? I don't think so!! So its got to be Lib Dem but a vote for them might bring the Tories back into power. Problems Problems.

Xaccers · 05-07-2003, 09:16

As a wise man once said "it doesn't matter who you vote for, the goverment always gets in"

05-07-2003, 10:35

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Originally posted by Martin
Political parties all seem to be the same to me! All promise the earth and give nothing Labours in now but who is the competition? The Tories? I don't think so!! So its got to be Lib Dem but a vote for them might bring the Tories back into power. Problems Problems.

I think this is very sad really. Political parties are really failing to stimulate interest in our free and democratic society and unfortunately the fault lies in a failing of quality leadership at the highest levels. Never forget that it took a long time and suffering to achieve the right to vote.

I'm not sure that anyone goes as far as promising the earth but I do think the the government has not helped the NHS by throwing money at it and building huge hospitals, indeed it seems now to have become normal to throw money at anything that's not performing well.

In the end people themselves should take more interest in state affairs and get involved in the political process.

05-07-2003, 11:06

Its going to be interesting when the gov have finally finnished victimising smokers.
I mean the next step is not smoking in public, then they are going to get to a point when they will be banned. Wheres the extra funds going to come from once the gov axes its tobacco tax huh?

As far as I am concerned even as an ex smoker, I couldnt give a rats ass about someone smoking next to me. Yes people have a right not to have it done but also smokers have a right to freedom too.

Tony Blair should resign, if he doesnt he should be sacked by the labour party.

05-07-2003, 11:09

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Originally posted by Ramrod
Fool! I was prophesying this before they got in. No one listened I said: 'They are labour, they are going to f*ck things up, they always do"
I always vote tory(my family was almost killed by communists)......but they f*ck things up as well. The lesson to learn from this, boys and girls, is not to trust polititians.
"When the master governs, the people are hardly aware that he exists.
Next best is a leader who is loved'
Next, one who is feared.
The worst is one who is despised."

Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

I thought it was the old SDP that had communist links.
OMG little commies in my country argghhhhhhhhhhh. Thankgod I aint american.......well yet anyway. Wont be long before we pledge our alliegance to the star spangled union jack.

Martin · 05-07-2003, 15:42

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Originally posted by Gogogo
In the end people themselves should take more interest in state affairs and get involved in the political process.

Its hard to get interested when as you point out the political parties don't seem interesting. I agree there is too much money wasted by this throwing money at it scenario. We need people to really take an interest in how things work. Why the NHS is failing, for instance some Nurses I have spoke to are really fed up with the way things are. The people that can tell people how it is aren't listened too.

Everyone should register a vote rather than not turning up! When I say promise the earth I mean to say they promised a better health service and its not happening, there has been a bit of progress here and there but we still have huge waiting list and nurses that are unhappy in there work.

I'll get back off my soap box now

paulyoung666 · 05-07-2003, 15:55

how about the monster raving loony party , cant be any worse off can we , hang they might be in , but changed there name

Stuart · 05-07-2003, 17:28

I like the way the government are saying they want more people in higher education, while they are cutting money spent on higher education...

Ikelos · 05-07-2003, 18:10

the remark about taking an interest, who will listen? blair has never listened to anyone other than the spin doctors...if he spent has much time trying to sort this country out as he does poking his nose into every other countries affairs, there might be light at the end of the tunnel.... no, the quicker this lot are got rid of the better, only for the fact that no one could do worse.....

Dave Stones · 05-07-2003, 19:40

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Originally posted by timewarrior2001
I thought it was the old SDP that had communist links.
OMG little commies in my country argghhhhhhhhhhh. Thankgod I aint american.......well yet anyway. Wont be long before we pledge our alliegance to the star spangled union jack.

better'n the star spangled europe flag...

*ahem*

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how about the monster raving loony party , cant be any worse off can we , hang they might be in , but changed there name

nah their leaders a cat aint it... dont think tony blair has that cat-like tenacity though he does enjoy digging his claws into IDS... even though it is all of course scripted horseplay and they are the best of friends in the locker room or bar or whatever they have at the houses of parliament...

ntluser · 08-07-2003, 10:39

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Originally posted by Gogogo
I think this is very sad really. Political parties are really failing to stimulate interest in our free and democratic society and unfortunately the fault lies in a failing of quality leadership at the highest levels. Never forget that it took a long time and suffering to achieve the right to vote.

I'm not sure that anyone goes as far as promising the earth but I do think the the government has not helped the NHS by throwing money at it and building huge hospitals, indeed it seems now to have become normal to throw money at anything that's not performing well.

In the end people themselves should take more interest in state affairs and get involved in the political process.

When the Blair Government came to power the people expected that there would be a massive improvement following the sleaze of the previous Tory government.

In reality, 'New Labour' talked a good manifesto but failed to deliver on so many issues.

Worse than that they introduced 'spin', which was brought in as a damage limitation strategy to cover up their mistakes or put them in an unrealistic positive light. The aim of spin was to keep the truth from the people and so retain popularity and power.

The recent conflict with the BBC and the way the Iraq crisis was investigated show worrying signs of the government's intention to use image management strategies by controlling the media and by subverting Parliament.

The Iraq investigation hasn't had access to all witnesses and yet they can pronounce that the Government is free of blame. That's got to be a fix. It's completely unrealistic. There should have been a totally independent public enquiry, but Blair would find it harder to control that.

I'm glad the BBC stuck to its guns because Blair has no personal integrity. He is a crook leading a cabinet of crooks. All they want is the big salary and pension, the good life and to keep power.

It's ironic that Labour voters have been sold down the river by a government that preached 'equal rights' but turned itself into an 'elite'. New Labour are the 'fat cats' of Parliament taking big salaries and pensions for 'failing'.

It's a shame that the voting papers don't have a box which allows voters to use to demonstrate the fact that there is no party worthy of their vote. It's a shame too that there is no procedure available to Parliament and the people to 'impeach' a Prime Minister and his government.

We do need a government that has wise policies and is capable of delivering on its promises but we also need a government which has integrity, honesty and openness. It's not a profile which matches the Blair Government.

08-07-2003, 10:45

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Originally posted by ntluser
We do need a government that has wise policies and is capable of delivering on its promises but we also need a government which has integrity, honesty and openness. It's not a profile which matches the Blair Government.

Integrity, honesty and openness do not go hand in hand with anything to do with politics.
Cheating, lying and backstabbing however do, and that pretty much sums up "Nu Labour".

Ramrod · 08-07-2003, 10:58

The Tories appeared to be corrupt financially. Labour are morally corrupt- a bunch of socialists and communists living in expensive houses and driving/being driven in big cars, strange kind of socialism. Definitely shades of 'Animal Farm'

**Chris** · 08-07-2003, 12:12

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Originally posted by Ramrod
The Tories appeared to be corrupt financially. Labour are morally corrupt- a bunch of socialists and communists living in expensive houses and driving/being driven in big cars, strange kind of socialism. Definitely shades of 'Animal Farm'

It's called 'champagne socialism' and it stinks.

iadom · 08-07-2003, 13:14

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