Transparent cache absolutely dismal - Page 2

deerokus · 03-01-2004, 07:44

I had this problem too and switched to the guildford one. i'm also in glasgow which is the renfrew UBR thing i think.

It was utterly ridiculous earlier

jem16 · 03-01-2004, 08:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by deerokus

I had this problem too and switched to the guildford one. i'm also in glasgow which is the renfrew UBR thing i think.

It was utterly ridiculous earlier

At 9am, Saturday - things are a bit better.
Speed Test Report

Broadband Speed Test - for ntl:World - 1Mb service
By Daniel Elwell - dannyelwell2001@msn.com
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Section 3: Download Speed Results
Three downloads are tested; one from one of your ISPs servers, one through your Transparent Cache and one through an alterntive cache. This will give you an idea of how capable your connection is. Note: You should take the highest download speed into account.

ntl:World - 1Mb service Server Download:
119KB/s (952Kb/s) - Perfect - running at full speed!

Download through Transparent Cache:
98KB/s (784Kb/s) - Average, though much higher should be achieved

Download through alternative Cache (inktomi4-ren.server.ntl.com):
118KB/s (944Kb/s) - Perfect - running at full speed!

* It appears that the alternative cache is working better than the ntl:World - 1Mb service cache. To improve Web Browsing, set the Proxy Server in your Web Browser to inktomi4-ren.server.ntl.com on port 8080*
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Test Statistics:
Information on the test

Time and Date: 03/01/2004 09:04:17
Test duration: 61 secondsIP address:
Username: [Not disclosed]
Test Version: 2.81

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Speed Test Report

Broadband Speed Test - for ntl:World - 1Mb service
By Daniel Elwell - dannyelwell2001@msn.com
Get this test from http://www.vantage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

*** THIS TEST IS NOT OWNED OR PAID FOR BY BLUEYONDER ***
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on the Internet. To improve accuracy, run the test several times.
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Section 3: Download Speed Results
Three downloads are tested; one from one of your ISPs servers, one through your Transparent Cache and one through an alterntive cache. This will give you an idea of how capable your connection is. Note: You should take the highest download speed into account.

ntl:World - 1Mb service Server Download:
120KB/s (960Kb/s) - Perfect - running at full speed!

Download through Transparent Cache:
113KB/s (904Kb/s) - Average, though much higher should be achieved

Download through alternative Cache (inktomi5-ren.server.ntl.com):
128KB/s (1024Kb/s) - Perfect - running at full speed!

* It appears that the alternative cache is working better than the ntl:World - 1Mb service cache. To improve Web Browsing, set the Proxy Server in your Web Browser to inktomi5-ren.server.ntl.com on port 8080*
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Test Statistics:
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Time and Date: 03/01/2004 09:08:29
Test duration: 61 secondsIP address:
Username: [Not disclosed]
Test Version: 2.81

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So at the moment inktomi 4 and 5 are fine.

Inktomi 2 and 5 have been the best but we shall see if peak time makes a difference again.

threadbare · 03-01-2004, 09:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by pem

Interesting, I didn't know it was address based (or IP based ?) allocation. What device actually makes the decision and routes you to the appropiate machine ?

Web Cache Control Protocol Server

threadbare · 03-01-2004, 09:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

does using a diff dns server disable the proxy?

I use a diff dns server as NTL's is unusable and I am actually not going through any transperent proxies, am I just in a good area? or is the dns bypassing it?

dns dont bypass proxies but it is possible that the proxiers in your area are turned off

rdhw · 03-01-2004, 10:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

does using a diff dns server disable the proxy?

No, these settings are unrelated. You will continue to use a web proxy whatever DNS settings you have.

Most people don't in fact have DNS problems at all: they have web proxy problems. If you get a browser screen back saying, in large font, "DNS Error" or something like that, this is a web proxy problem, not a DNS problem. Changing your DNS settings will make no difference to this.

jem16 · 03-01-2004, 11:26

12.15pm and back to its dismal self - seems to be intomi 3 that's the problem.

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on the Internet. To improve accuracy, run the test several times.
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Section 3: Download Speed Results
Three downloads are tested; one from one of your ISPs servers, one through your Transparent Cache and one through an alterntive cache. This will give you an idea of how capable your connection is. Note: You should take the highest download speed into account.

ntl:World - 1Mb service Server Download:
120KB/s (960Kb/s) - Perfect - running at full speed!

Download through Transparent Cache:
5KB/s (40Kb/s) - Dismal - this is extremely poor

Download through alternative Cache (inktomi3-ren.server.ntl.com):
7KB/s (56Kb/s) - Dismal - this is extremely poor

* It appears that the alternative cache is working better than the ntl:World - 1Mb service cache. To improve Web Browsing, set the Proxy Server in your Web Browser to inktomi3-ren.server.ntl.com on port 8080*
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Test Statistics:
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Time and Date: 03/01/2004 12:23:27
Test duration: 566 secondsIP address:
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Test Version: 2.81

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Seems to be a load problem. Not bad at 9am, dismal by 12.15pm.

deerokus · 03-01-2004, 12:25

with me my connection just died completely. not sure why. god rid of the guildford proxy and it works fine just now. not sure what happened

jem16 · 03-01-2004, 16:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by deerokus

with me my connection just died completely. not sure why. god rid of the guildford proxy and it works fine just now. not sure what happened

I'm still using Guildford and it's fine.

Just done another speed test and all is wonderful with the Renfrew transparent cache - perhaps it's been fixed?

Speed Test Report

Broadband Speed Test - for ntl:World - 1Mb service
By Daniel Elwell - dannyelwell2001@msn.com
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These results are only a snapshot of this particular moment. They are dependant
on any other Internet use on this computer and any delays
on the Internet. To improve accuracy, run the test several times.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Section 1: General Ping Results
A Ping test is the time taken for a server to reply to a request

ntl:World Server:
22ms - Normal - it's about right!

UK Server 1 (www.demon.net):
0ms - *** PING timed out ***
Tracert to specified location:
Tracert was cancelled

UK Server 2 (www.bbc.co.uk):
25ms - Normal - it's about right!

UK Server 3 (www.ic24.net):
23ms - Normal - it's about right!

USA East Coast Server (www.yahoo.com):
0ms - *** PING timed out ***
Tracert to specified location:
Tracert was cancelled

USA West Coast Server (www.lycos.com):
106ms - Fast - very fast response

European Server (www.marcopoly.com):
24ms - Excellent - better than expected

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Section 2: Custom Server Ping Results
These results are to four user-definable servers.

Blueyonder Counter-Strike 1:
0ms - *** PING timed out ***
Tracert to specified location:
Tracert was cancelled

Blueyonder Team-Fortress Leage 1:
0ms - *** PING timed out ***
Tracert to specified location:
Tracert was cancelled

BarrysWorld Master Server (all games):
0ms - *** PING timed out ***
Tracert to specified location:
Tracert was cancelled

Barrysworld Quake III Arena:
21ms -

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Section 3: Download Speed Results
Three downloads are tested; one from one of your ISPs servers, one through your Transparent Cache and one through an alterntive cache. This will give you an idea of how capable your connection is. Note: You should take the highest download speed into account.

ntl:World - 1Mb service Server Download:
110KB/s (880Kb/s) - Average, though much higher should be achieved

Download through Transparent Cache:
116KB/s (928Kb/s) - Perfect - running at full speed!

Download through alternative Cache (inktomi3-ren.server.ntl.com):
120KB/s (960Kb/s) - Perfect - running at full speed!

* It appears that the alternative cache is working better than the ntl:World - 1Mb service cache. To improve Web Browsing, set the Proxy Server in your Web Browser to inktomi3-ren.server.ntl.com on port 8080*
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Section 4: Packet Loss
50 Ping Requests are sent to your server. The packet loss is measured by how many of the packets don't bounce back to the client. High packet loss may slow down your connection.

50 packets were sent, 50 bounced back; 0% loss (estimated)
Fantastic - no packets dropped!
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Section 5: Transparent Cache Page Fetch Time
This test times how long your Transparent Cache takes to fetch a page from the Internet. Please note that this test is subject to many different parameters and sometimes may not be 100% accurate. This test can be used to show delays when trying to view Internet sites. The timing takes place from the moment the request for the file is sent to the moment the proxy server responds.

Average time taken to retrieve a page: 60ms - Fine, nothing to worry about

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Test Statistics:
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Time and Date: 03/01/2004 17:14:44
Test duration: 64 secondsIP address:
Username: [Not disclosed]
Test Version: 2.81

Broadband Speed Test - www.vantage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

Chrysalis · 03-01-2004, 18:46

easy way to tell if its dns server issue is opening a command prompt and do nslookup commands, also its obvious when all net applications fail to do dns lookups properly. This is what happens when i use ntl's dns servers, there was a massive thread on this on .com and any new person entering the forums would have noticed there was a defenite dns issue but with the site down ntl have hidden the problem.

here is test result, demon dns servers ntl 600kbit and no transparent proxy.

check section 5

Speed Test Report

Broadband Speed Test - for ntl:World - 512k service
By Daniel Elwell - dannyelwell2001@msn.com
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
These results are only a snapshot of this particular moment. They are dependant
on any other Internet use on this computer and any delays
on the Internet. To improve accuracy, run the test several times.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Section 1: General Ping Results
A Ping test is the time taken for a server to reply to a request

ntl:World Server:
22ms - Normal - it's about right!

UK Server 1 (www.demon.net):
0ms - *** PING timed out ***
Tracert to specified location:

Tracing route to 194.159.254.213 over a maximum of 20 hops
1 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.146.151.254
2 19 ms 10 ms 9 ms 80.7.30.145
3 11 ms 8 ms 17 ms 80.1.79.197
4 13 ms 45 ms 9 ms 62.253.188.37
5 14 ms 10 ms 17 ms 62.253.185.117
6 13 ms 23 ms 15 ms 62.253.185.98
7 16 ms 16 ms 15 ms 62.253.185.74
8 * * * Request timed out.
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
Trace complete.

UK Server 2 (www.bbc.co.uk):
21ms - Normal - it's about right!

UK Server 3 (www.ic24.net):
27ms - Normal - it's about right!

USA East Coast Server (www.yahoo.com):
0ms - *** PING timed out ***
Tracert to specified location:

Tracing route to 64.58.76.176 over a maximum of 20 hops
1 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.146.151.254
2 14 ms 9 ms 11 ms 80.7.30.145
3 12 ms 9 ms 9 ms 80.1.79.197
4 11 ms 52 ms 14 ms 62.253.185.37
5 11 ms 15 ms 16 ms 62.253.185.102
6 14 ms 11 ms 20 ms 62.253.187.186
7 16 ms 32 ms 17 ms 62.253.185.193
8 14 ms 15 ms 13 ms 208.175.252.89
9 19 ms 23 ms 19 ms 166.63.209.201
10 100 ms 100 ms 102 ms 206.24.226.99
11 * 206.24.238.38 reports: Destination host unreachable.
Trace complete.

USA West Coast Server (www.lycos.com):
101ms - Fast - very fast response

European Server (www.marcopoly.com):
35ms - Better than average - very quick response

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Section 2: Custom Server Ping Results
These results are to four user-definable servers.

Blueyonder Counter-Strike 1:
0ms - *** PING timed out ***
Tracert to specified location:

Tracing route to 194.117.138.249 over a maximum of 20 hops
1 7 ms 15 ms 30 ms 10.146.151.254
2 9 ms 8 ms 8 ms 80.7.30.17
3 14 ms 9 ms 8 ms 80.1.79.69
4 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms 62.253.185.33
5 19 ms 15 ms 17 ms 62.253.185.238
6 65 ms 59 ms 62 ms 62.253.185.82
7 194.117.147.69 reports: Destination host unreachable.
Trace complete.

Blueyonder Team-Fortress Leage 1:
0ms - *** PING timed out ***
Tracert to specified location:

Tracing route to 194.117.138.225 over a maximum of 20 hops
1 10 ms 8 ms 8 ms 10.146.151.254
2 7 ms 17 ms 8 ms 80.7.30.17
3 63 ms 10 ms 8 ms 80.1.79.69
4 28 ms 14 ms 10 ms 62.253.188.33
5 16 ms 24 ms 14 ms 62.253.185.238
6 70 ms * * 62.253.185.82
7 194.117.147.69 reports: Destination host unreachable.
Trace complete.

BarrysWorld Master Server (all games):
0ms - *** PING timed out ***
Tracert to specified location:

Tracing route to 213.221.174.165 over a maximum of 20 hops
1 12 ms 7 ms 10 ms 10.146.151.254
2 10 ms 8 ms 7 ms 80.7.30.17
3 8 ms 15 ms 14 ms 80.1.79.69
4 14 ms 11 ms 10 ms 62.253.185.33
5 20 ms 17 ms 51 ms 62.253.185.238
6 55 ms 118 ms 60 ms 62.253.185.82
7 43 ms 14 ms 17 ms 195.66.224.162
8 18 ms 20 ms 14 ms 213.221.179.115
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 * * * Request timed out.
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 * * * Request timed out.
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
Trace complete.

Barrysworld Quake III Arena:
16ms -

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Section 3: Download Speed Results
Three downloads are tested; one from one of your ISPs servers, one through your Transparent Cache and one through an alterntive cache. This will give you an idea of how capable your connection is. Note: You should take the highest download speed into account.

ntl:World - 512k service Server Download:
70KB/s (560Kb/s) - Superb - much higher than expected

Download through Transparent Cache:
70KB/s (560Kb/s) - Superb - much higher than expected

Download through alternative Cache (webcache.bt.net):
0KB/s (0Kb/s) - **** SERVER ERROR: Unexpected error from Server****

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Section 4: Packet Loss
50 Ping Requests are sent to your server. The packet loss is measured by how many of the packets don't bounce back to the client. High packet loss may slow down your connection.

50 packets were sent, 50 bounced back; 0% loss (estimated)
Fantastic - no packets dropped!
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Section 5: Transparent Cache Page Fetch Time
This test times how long your Transparent Cache takes to fetch a page from the Internet. Please note that this test is subject to many different parameters and sometimes may not be 100% accurate. This test can be used to show delays when trying to view Internet sites. The timing takes place from the moment the request for the file is sent to the moment the proxy server responds.

Average time taken to retrieve a page: 0ms - At least one of the pages requested failed to download. This may indicate problems with your Webcache. Run the test again to confirm this.

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Test Statistics:
Information on the test

Time and Date: 03/01/2004 19:44:44
Test duration: 175 secondsIP address: [Not Disclosed]
Username: [Not disclosed]
Test Version: 2.81

Broadband Speed Test - www.vantage.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk

threadbare · 04-01-2004, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

easy way to tell if its dns server issue is opening a command prompt and do nslookup commands, also its obvious when all net applications fail to do dns lookups properly. This is what happens when i use ntl's dns servers, there was a massive thread on this on .com and any new person entering the forums would have noticed there was a defenite dns issue but with the site down ntl have hidden the problem.

how can ntl hide a dns problem form nearly a million BB customers?

Chrysalis · 04-01-2004, 23:31

lack of knowledge not everyone is technical, trying to load a webpage and getting a cannot load page message the average person would assume it is problem with the webpage.

threadbare · 05-01-2004, 07:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

lack of knowledge not everyone is technical, trying to load a webpage and getting a cannot load page message the average person would assume it is problem with the webpage.

yes but a million customers? I don't think so. lots of "dns" issues ie page cannot be displayed are cause buy the PC's being used to browse them. for instance winsock errors can cause a complete loss of browsing but the connection still works as you can still ping IP addresses. other applications may still work. System resources on PC's using usb. spyware, particularly newdotnet can screw up winsocks and proxies. the list goes on... thats without the occasional network hiccup and proxies at the ISP's end

edit: I am just curious as I see a lot of ppl on this board with "dns" issues yet have not experinced this myself except the outage that was supposed to be due to the blaster/welchia issues

Chrysalis · 05-01-2004, 11:31

while what you say is correct, NTL do have a problem with their dns servers, pinging ip addresses will work obviously, pinging domains ???.

There was obviously an issue considering the amount of faults reported on the old site, and I know enough about computers to know what caused the issue I had, lookups were failing so I replaced the default dns servers with another isp's the problem dissapeared so you make your own conclusion, it also fixed numerous of my friend's connections as well and they are all ntl customer's.

Like I said before its not that hard to hide it because it is a on/off thing, it will fail to propogate a domain then 4 hours later it may work so the average user who wouldn't be a tech wiz would never guess its a fault with the isp.