MS Updates today - Page 2

grubbymitts · 12-04-2006, 15:17

the activex thing is not high priority so if you go through the website and install from there, you can choose only to install high priority installs like security issues

nffc · 12-04-2006, 15:42

Download Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 2000 patches, service packs and upgrades HERE.

Down the Pub · 12-04-2006, 17:42

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Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

If you have automatic updates enables you should still recieve security updates even if it is identifies as 'fake'.

i don't..........the heap that i got already had a legit VLK copy , the other week was updating when MS dropped a new validation .dll on me and since then i can't get updates. you can't even disable the new active-x in IE

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MrBen · 12-04-2006, 18:56

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Originally Posted by grubbymitts

the activex thing is not high priority so if you go through the website and install from there, you can choose only to install high priority installs like security issues

Microsoft started talking about what was going to be happening with ActiveX back in [I think it was] December last year so websites could start changing their code. They released a non-high priority patch in February but it is now included as part of the high-priority Internet Explorer security update.

There is a compatiblity patch available from Microsoft that will revert the change to ActiveX until the second week of June.

It's not a huge issue as Flash animations etc will still play on load. You just need to click on them first to activate them before you can interact with them. Websites can change the way they load ActiveX controls to bypass the issue and reduce the impact. Now the it's being 'forced' on people I'm sure people will start to make the changes. It's not a huge thing to do.

I've seen a few people choosing to not install the IE security update but that is not a good idea at all really. All the IE patches will now include this change to ActiveX so sooner or later you will have to accept it.

Ben

Chicken · 12-04-2006, 22:26

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Originally Posted by MrBen

Microsoft started talking about what was going to be happening with ActiveX back in [I think it was] December last year so websites could start changing their code. They released a non-high priority patch in February but it is now included as part of the high-priority Internet Explorer security update.

There is a compatiblity patch available from Microsoft that will revert the change to ActiveX until the second week of June.

It's not a huge issue as Flash animations etc will still play on load. You just need to click on them first to activate them before you can interact with them. Websites can change the way they load ActiveX controls to bypass the issue and reduce the impact. Now the it's being 'forced' on people I'm sure people will start to make the changes. It's not a huge thing to do.

I've seen a few people choosing to not install the IE security update but that is not a good idea at all really. All the IE patches will now include this change to ActiveX so sooner or later you will have to accept it.

Ben

Is this the update that now pops up a message saying "Click to run an ActiveX control on this page"??? - if so, I have to ask.. what is the f***ing point???
You have NO idea which ActiveX is about to be run, you can't use the browser's back button as the message is modal and stopping you, and - best of all, clicking the Close Window button on the dialog --- wait for it - ALLOWS THE ACTIVEX CONTROL TO RUN ANYWAY!!

What a complete and utter waste of time.

MrBen · 12-04-2006, 23:08

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Originally Posted by Chicken

Is this the update that now pops up a message saying "Click to run an ActiveX control on this page"??? - if so, I have to ask.. what is the f***ing point???
You have NO idea which ActiveX is about to be run, you can't use the browser's back button as the message is modal and stopping you, and - best of all, clicking the Close Window button on the dialog --- wait for it - ALLOWS THE ACTIVEX CONTROL TO RUN ANYWAY!!

What a complete and utter waste of time.

No, it doesn't sound like it. You should only be seeing a tooltip when you mouse over the ActiveX control telling you to click to activate it. Take a look at this Flash animation on the Macromedia.com site (also see Macromedia article).

Microsoft haven't done this because they want to. There was a patent dispute between them and Eolas Technologies. Microsoft lost and this is the consequence. Websites can implement work arounds should they choose to, it's not that complicated but will take some time.

Ben

13-04-2006, 06:32

All patched up and upto date with no problems.

Thnx for the heads up...

banjo · 13-04-2006, 10:45

I installed the patches yesterday and today when I visited e-bay there are no pictures just a message where they should be saying that "This page is unavailable" is this a coincidence, could someone check the home page of e-bay please, thank you.

grubbymitts · 13-04-2006, 11:38

yep, you are right Banjo. But it is only advert crud anyway. Looks like that patch is well cacky!

If it bothers you, you can remove it from add/remove programs.

banjo · 13-04-2006, 11:39

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Originally Posted by grubbymitts

yep, you are right Banjo. But it is only advert crud anyway. Looks like that patch is well cacky!

If it bothers you, you can remove it from add/remove programs.

Thank you for looking

iadom · 13-04-2006, 23:50

Well I have a slight problem, desktop update fine. Laptop update went OK but when the laptop was rebooted I noticed that the battery status icon was missing from the taskbar/systray. I have tried everything I can to get it back to no avail. When I plug in the mains adaptor the icon is still missing, even though Control Panel/Power Options/Advanced has the tick box for 'Show icon on Taskbar' enabled it is still missing. It is something that I really would like to sort so that i can quickly check on battery status. Has anyone else noticed this problem or can suggest a fix ?

Druchii · 14-04-2006, 00:05

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Originally Posted by iadom

Well I have a slight problem, desktop update fine. Laptop update went OK but when the laptop was rebooted I noticed that the battery status icon was missing from the taskbar/systray. I have tried everything I can to get it back to no avail. When I plug in the mains adaptor the icon is still missing, even though Control Panel/Power Options/Advanced has the tick box for 'Show icon on Taskbar' enabled it is still missing. It is something that I really would like to sort so that i can quickly check on battery status. Has anyone else noticed this problem or can suggest a fix ?

Tried turning the option off, rebooting and the re-turning it on?

iadom · 14-04-2006, 00:48

It is really weird but I have fixed it.
First of all I checked that 'Show Icon' was selected and also in 'Customize Notifications' that it was set to 'Always Show'. This had no effect.

I then did a system restore to the day before and the power icon was back in all its glory.
Once again I went through Windows Update and after reboot the icon had once more vanished.

I then deselected 'Show Icon' via Power Options/Advanced and rebooted. Believe it or not the icon is now back, even though it is still unticked in Power Options/Advanced.

I checked on 'Customize Notifications' and it is still checked as 'Always Show' so for the moment all seems to be working again.

Jim.

abailey152 · 15-04-2006, 12:24

I started having problems with this update. NTBackup freezing and a program called ExplorerPlus also freezing. Also found several copies of a new file in the task list, "Verclsid.exe".

After searching, found this and this. Apparently, one of the security fixes does break some programs and Windows itself (such as Windows freezing when right-clicking on desktop). The main problem is with HP printer and scanner drivers, but it can cause problems when no HP drivers are installed.

Personally, the fix I've used is to rename the "C:\Windows\System32\Verclsid.exe" file to "C:\Windows\System32\Verclsid.old" which seems to work okay. However, these workarounds do kill the security fix so should only be used if you have problems.

popper · 16-04-2006, 21:31

PatchLink Warns on IE Patch
http://www.osnn.net/comments.php?shownews=12718
The problems arise because of changes Microsoft made to how the Web browser handles Web programs called ActiveX controls. The modifications are designed to shield Microsoft from liability in a high-profile patent dispute with Eolas Technologies and the University of California.

Microsoft had warned that the ActiveX tweaks, first announced in December, can affect how certain sites display in the browser. The software maker released a "compatibility patch" alongside Tuesday's security update that undoes the ActiveX changes for another 60 days.