Wind v Nuclear - Page 2

**Chris** · 26-11-2003, 17:24

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Originally Posted by downquark1

Fusion will fix that problem

I'm looking forward to it, it's one of those things which I always thought would prove I really was living in the future - along with videophones etc etc.

Problem is, it's always 'decades away', and I'm beginning to wonder if we'll see it in our lifetimes.

downquark1 · 26-11-2003, 17:25

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Originally Posted by towny

I'm looking forward to it, it's one of those things which I always thought would prove I really was living in the future - along with videophones etc etc.

Problem is, it's always 'decades away', and I'm beginning to wonder if we'll see it in our lifetimes.

Indeed

, but nobody said harnassing the power of the stars would be easy

ntluser · 26-11-2003, 17:29

Another possibility would be to develop hydro-electricity as we certainly get plenty of rain in this country and we are surrounded by water. It's also safer than nuclear powered systems.

paulyoung666 · 26-11-2003, 17:29

well , if not wind then why not wave , or is that no good as well , probably not , but you would think it would be as the waves are more constant than than wind or are they

, somehow i dont think fusion is going to be our saviour somehow , well at least not in the short term , we havent run out of coal yet have we , then why not start digging some more of it , create some jobs at the same time

, or is that no good as well , maybe a better idea would be to save energy and obviate the need for more power stations whatever type they maybe

downquark1 · 26-11-2003, 17:32

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

well , if not wind then why not wave , or is that no good as well , probably not , but you would think it would be as the waves are more constant than than wind or are they

, somehow i dont think fusion is going to be our saviour somehow , well at least not in the short term , we havent run out of coal yet have we , then why not start digging some more of it , create some jobs at the same time

, or is that no good as well , maybe a better idea would be to save energy and obviate the need for more power stations whatever type they maybe

Coal produces pollution and waste too. Entire piles of it that have to be carved into landscapes, they then collapse on people.

paulyoung666 · 26-11-2003, 17:45

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Originally Posted by downquark1

Coal produces pollution and waste too. Entire piles of it that have to be carved into landscapes, they then collapse on people.

fair play i didnt say it was right i was just putting some options across , ok then oil , we have some left

Xaccers · 26-11-2003, 17:48

The problem with saying how long our fossil fuels will last is, they assume we won't find any more, of course, one day we will run out totally, but by then we might have heated the planet up so much we'd all be dead

paulyoung666 · 26-11-2003, 17:55

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

The problem with saying how long our fossil fuels will last is, they assume we won't find any more, of course, one day we will run out totally, but by then we might have heated the planet up so much we'd all be dead

fair comment , but is global warming all our fault or is it something that would have happened anyway ???????????? , sometimes i wonder , the latest one is about a hundred year winter as reported here http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...925784,00.html
is that our making as well or is it just a natural cycle

Xaccers · 26-11-2003, 18:08

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

fair comment , but is global warming all our fault or is it something that would have happened anyway ???????????? , sometimes i wonder , the latest one is about a hundred year winter as reported here http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...925784,00.html
is that our making as well or is it just a natural cycle

That's something I've always wondered.
All this CO2 that we're releasing from fossil fuels originially came from the atmosphere anyway

paulyoung666 · 26-11-2003, 18:39

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

That's something I've always wondered.
All this CO2 that we're releasing from fossil fuels originially came from the atmosphere anyway

good point that , round and round we go where it stops god only knows

etccarmageddon · 26-11-2003, 19:12

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markmarkymark · 26-11-2003, 20:29

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

funny , i had a feeling you might pop up

, there was one thing i forgot to mention , the people living near the wind turbines are now complaining about the noise , mind you years ago they were complaining about the nuclear power station at the other end of town , ho hum life goes on

ahhh Paul ... pop up indeed, this is dear to my heart ,.,!

markmarkymark · 26-11-2003, 20:33

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Originally Posted by towny

I admit I'm no expert, and I was basing that idea on you saying Trawsfynydd in North Wales is otherwise a beautiful part of the country, but it will be blighted for many lifetimes by the immovable remains of the old nuclear power station that was built there.

Blighted ? Ok may be you are right .... some would say they are blighted by Coal Spoil Heaps. At the end of the day society will need to decide what cost it is prepared to put up with vs its energy needs ..

**Maggy** · 26-11-2003, 20:49

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Originally Posted by ntluser

Another possibility would be to develop hydro-electricity as we certainly get plenty of rain in this country and we are surrounded by water. It's also safer than nuclear powered systems.

Now funny you should say that.I heard tonight on the news that we will be having a drought in the UK next year(I thought we had one now but perhaps that was last years)so maybe rain power isn't the answer.anyway are you thinking of dams?can't think anyone is going to want to live next door to one of them.or have I misunderstood?

Incog.

Jerrek · 26-11-2003, 22:34

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Originally Posted by paulyoung

so if fusion is the way to go , is it clean and safe or cleaner and safer ?????? , i must admit to have not looked into it but sitting next to earth's version of the sun could be well interesting couldnt it

We do not have the technology to make fusion a feasable source of energy. You're probably thinking of fission.

Fusion is the fusing of two hydrogen (deuterium, which is hydrogen with an extra neutron) atoms to get helium and energy. We can do it, but it requires high temperatures and pressure. The amount of energy put into the system is more than we get out of it, so that isn't really good.

Fission is the splitting of uranium or other fissionable materials by bombarding it with a neutron. The neutron splits the atom into two parts, some neutrons, and some energy. The neutrons released bombard other atoms, and the process continues.