Sharing my wi-fi with a neighbour. Ramifications? - Page 2

marky · 03-03-2006, 18:30

Gorgeous and french,
I'll run a wire from my house

Graham M · 03-03-2006, 19:13

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Originally Posted by DaggaDagga

My worry would be that, unless you buy an additional router, they'll be on the unprotected side of your router's firewall.

That makes no sense what so ever.

03-03-2006, 19:16

I presume he means HIS PCs are protected from the net by the firewall, but if the nieghbour is using the same router, she will be on the same LAN, and there will be no firewall between the OP's PCs and the neighbour's.

Graham M · 03-03-2006, 19:18

OK well... that's what software firewalls are there for.

GeoffW · 03-03-2006, 20:50

It sounds fair enough to me if you don't think she'll abuse it. You can always change the WEP key later.

As for the NTL T&Cs, I really can't see NTL getting rid of a customer for something like this, and frankly if they tried to enforce their T&Cs with me (I have used more than 3 pc to connect behind the NAT), I'd tell them to stuff it and get another ISP. Their loss.

The only points to consider is access to your shares, potential viruses, and the complications if you decided to stop it.

Matthew · 03-03-2006, 22:43

If you dont know her to well I wouldn't bother.

Toto · 04-03-2006, 06:30

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Originally Posted by GeoffW

The only points to consider is access to your shares, potential viruses, and the complications if you decided to stop it.

This is the major point. If you are considering to share your bandwidth with a neighbour, whether it is wired or wireless, the public IP address is assigned to the account holder, the ntl customer. If for any reason the neighbour is doing something they shouldn't, knowingly or unknowingly, then its the account holder who will fall fowl of ntl's abuse team.

It's a very noble gesture in my opinion, but as GeoffW says, complicated if you had to stop it.

GeoffW · 04-03-2006, 08:33

You could give her the WEP key and tell her you change it every month, that way she'd have to come back to ask for the new one.

Or if she's really nice you could change it every week.

Martyn · 04-03-2006, 09:58

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Originally Posted by zovat

I would say that this is at your discression - although the T&Cs do state that you should not connect from outside your home (excluding your garden), and connect only laptops/computers that you own. It also states no more than 3 systems at any one time. That said, I regularly have friends round (easier to have them with us than go out with a young child) and they sometime bring their laptops and connect to our BB to check mail etc. I have also sat outside in the car with my pda connected up - so I guess I break them regularly

In summary - you will be breaking the Ts&Cs, but not the law. If there afre problems then NTL could remove your service, but I would expect that unless you are running solid p2p or breaking the more serious Ts&Cs (spamming hacking etc) then I would expect that they would give you a warning If things go sour with the neighbour, then just change the key, and they cannot use it anymore (or block their MAC address to be sure). as ever - just my 2c

Sorry but that is total bollox.. i'd use as many PC's as i want..

they even sell routers, with 4 adaptors, you think they would get special 3 port ones? correct?..

http://www.ntlshop.ntlworld.com/webs...ionSelected=26

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dude tell em to get a free dial up number + user & pass

if they only use it for email n job research 56k is enough..

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Originally Posted by GeoffW

It sounds fair enough to me if you don't think she'll abuse it. You can always change the WEP key later. As for the NTL T&Cs, I really can't see NTL getting rid of a customer for something like this, and frankly if they tried to enforce their T&Cs with me (I have used more than 3 pc to connect behind the NAT), I'd tell them to stuff it and get another ISP. Their loss. The only points to consider is access to your shares, potential viruses, and the complications if you decided to stop it.

Very true, thats lame, image a big family, 4 bedroom house etc, or even 3.

mums room, kids room etc, will be 4 comps, more if they got family computer down stairs.. lol

zovat · 04-03-2006, 20:50

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Originally Posted by Martyn

Sorry but that is total bollox.. i'd use as many PC's as i want..

they even sell routers, with 4 adaptors, you think they would get special 3 port ones? correct?..

http://www.ntlshop.ntlworld.com/webs...ionSelected=26

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dude tell em to get a free dial up number + user & pass

if they only use it for email n job research 56k is enough..

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Very true, thats lame, image a big family, 4 bedroom house etc, or even 3.

mums room, kids room etc, will be 4 comps, more if they got family computer down stairs.. lol

Easy Now, I merely pointed out what it says in the Ts&Cs.

You will note from the post that I do not agree with them - merely that they would be withing their rights to withdraw service if they felt the need.

I also do not appreciate being told that something is B****ks when it is what is stated in the Ts&Cs

... (closest I've ever come to red repping someone)

as Ignition said - there is nothing Illegal about doing this, but NTL have put things in their Ts&Cs that mean they would be within their rights to withdraw the service (not that I believe for one moment they would do so.)

Minbu · 06-03-2006, 23:43

Anyway, regarding sharing my wife with a neighbour..................

lordy · 06-03-2006, 23:54

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Originally Posted by Zeph

OK well... that's what software firewalls are there for.

That wouldnt be the best way to do it as then you have to allow sharing between you own PCs but not anything the neigbour has. This would become a difficult to manage, especially if using DHCP. The best way would be to get another router and put your own network behind that.

Which was alluded to in the post that made no sense to you

Lordy

Retrovertigo · 07-03-2006, 09:59

Well, I haven't seen the neighbour for a few days so I am guessing she has been going to the local sainsburys and using the net cafe area there.

I don't actually have any sharing enabled on my P.C so I doubt security would have been an issue - or would it?

I only have the wi-fi for connecting my Nintendo DS to the net. My P.C and Xbox 360 are hardwired.

But thanks for all the responses. Been an eye opener learning aboit certain things which maybe would never have crossed my mind.

Oh and despite the french girl beinga real cutie - her boyfriend is HUGE. He must go to the gym about 4 times a day. So I reckon I would have been nice to him and not tried to steal her away

danielf · 07-03-2006, 10:18

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Originally Posted by Retrovertigo

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Oh and despite the french girl beinga real cutie - her boyfriend is HUGE. He must go to the gym about 4 times a day. So I reckon I would have been nice to him and not tried to steal her away

She must be alone a lot then

obscura2k · 07-03-2006, 11:48

why not just let her use it and put some strict parentl controls on the router, most routers nowadays come with useful tools to stop certain content ... just block everything you can think off that might land you in the deep end ... xxx, p2p, warez etc ...