tv licence guess what ?

[kronas]

Originally Posted by dellwear

The BBC is a British institution and we should just live with it. Its like saying we should knock down Big Ben.

institution ?

why live with the licence i have explained how the BBC could reorganize itself and the bit about wasting millions on the tv stations no one will watch

i dont mean get rid of the BBC but i sure would not miss it

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by downquark1

In america they have a break every 5 min, you do not want this here The bbc is the last stand against complete capitallistic TV.

Seriously on an episode of the simpsons you have:
1) the opening credits
2) adverts
3) bit of story
4) adverts
5) more bit of story
6) adverts
7) closing credits
It was terrible They even did this with the films

True but why don't ITV do the same as the US networks then?

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by towny

It doesn't. A subsidiary runs UK TV as a joint venture with one of the former ITV franchises ... Thames, I think. BBC Worldwide sells the merchandise and the profits are skimmed off to augment the TV licence fee and help pay for 8 TV channels, 8 (?) national radio channels and a dozen or more local radio stations. There are no commercial breaks on any of these channels. If the BBC went to a subscription model, the inevitable result would be ads as well as a subscription, as there would be bound to be people who would opt out.

Some things, everyone should help to pay for whether they use them or not because they are part of the infrastructure of this country ... roads, railways, the BBC. We all rely on the BBC at one time or another and deep down we all know they are damn good at what they do. Every single event that's televised live on both BBC1 and ITV1 will be watched on the BBC by at least twice as many people as watch it on ITV.


And besides, without the BBC and its prolific output of original programming, where would all the satellite stations get their programming from? Sky creams the best of the American stuff, but even they scrape the barrel from time to time (anyone ever see any of Dead Like Me?)

And anyway, I disagree with the notion that the digital channels are a waste of money. I have enjoyed good, original material on both BBC3 and 4, and we watch 3 in our house almost as much as Sky One. As for the kids' channels ... well, Cbeebies is the only free-to-air tots channel and is the only one with almost entirely British-made programming, so it supports our son in learning, for example, British English rather than American (anyone else remember being confused by Sesame Street's insistence on saying 'zee' instead of 'zed'?) BBC digital would be worth it for Cbeebies if nothing else ... and so says our 14-month-old!

Cbeebies! Gets our seal of approval!

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by kronas

i dont mean get rid of the BBC but i sure would not miss it

I don't mean to offend K, but this is the mentality of this country now "I'm alright Jack"

I find it rather saddening.

Originally Posted by Ramrod

True but why don't ITV do the same as the US networks then?

The terms of ITV's licence to broadcast limits the amount of advertising per hour, AFAIK

it's odd! we pay for a tv licence so as not to have ads on the bbc.
however i pay to have ads on the rest of the dtv channels.this i really resent


personally i would pay NOT to have any ads what so ever.or at least only to have them at the end and between shows not every bl**dy five minutes.

incog.

[Shaun]

Thinking about his again, I guess we pay for the privilege of having a telly, its not really an issue where the money goes to is it?

[ZrByte]

Did they finally ammend that clause in the TV licencing wherby anyone using a TFT TV or PC with TV card does not have to pay a liscence?

If they havent I know what I will be getting when I move out

[Jerrek]

In america they have a break every 5 min, you do not want this here The bbc is the last stand against complete capitallistic TV.

Seriously on an episode of the simpsons you have:
1) the opening credits
2) adverts
3) bit of story
4) adverts
5) more bit of story
6) adverts
7) closing credits
It was terrible They even did this with the films

Correct, but only if you watch major networks such as ABC, CBS, CBC, NBC, and so forth.

However, the Family channel has no advertisements. Neither does HBO, the movie network, Starz!, and the other 50 movie channels. If you watch the free TV, the stuff you can get by antenna, you have commercials. Otherwise, it is very decent.

And, I do prefer having some sort of break in programs, because I *always* want to get a snack, go to the washroom, and sometimes the commercials are enjoyable.

121 pounds though, that is like C$ 250. That gets me 40 channels of basic cable, and for another 50 pounds a year I can get another 20 specialty channels such as Discovery, TBS, Family, Sci Fi, Space, and so on.

The BBC signal should be scrambled, so those that dont want to pay extortion money can opt out and not receive BBC signals (including radio......who actually enjoys Radio one?).

[KingPhoenix]

Originally Posted by kronas

the tv licence is going up by £5 the colour licence will now cost £121 per year

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...io/3261007.stm

now im strongly against a tv licence at all the BBC create hardly any programming worth watching the bbc can adequatly fund itself through advertising and selling its books videos dvd's as well as licencing its productions to other countries

Not meaning to sound funny or anything..... but do you actually pay a tv license???

[altis]

Originally Posted by ZrByte

Did they finally ammend that clause in the TV licencing wherby anyone using a TFT TV or PC with TV card does not have to pay a liscence?

If they havent I know what I will be getting when I move out

You'll need a TV licence for every UK property where UK broadcast television can be viewed or recorded. It doesn't matter how the signal gets there (satellite, cable or even streaming internet) and it doesn't matter what you view it on (CRT, TFT or VCR), you'll still need a licence.

There's loads of useful information - and evidence - on this FAQs page and another heated discussion (with more evidence) in this thread.

[orangebird]

Originally Posted by dellwear

Ah well whats another fiver?

With respect dellwear, it could be the straw that breaks the camels back for a lot of people... I suppose it just depends on how many 'five pounds' you have spare....

What with car tax going up, NI contributions going up, interest rate rising etc, it's definitely a fiver that I could've done without spending.....

Make the TV Licence just a bloody TV licence and they wouldn't need to put the cost up. We should not have to pay £100 million a year just for their website and billions more for all their radio stations. Their a load of greedy b@stards

[Stuart W]

Originally Posted by towny

Some things, everyone should help to pay for whether they use them or not because they are part of the infrastructure of this country ... roads, railways, the BBC.

Originally Posted by dellwear

The BBC is a British institution and we should just live with it. Its like saying we should knock down Big Ben.

BBC is not part of UK infrastructure!
If the BBC were to suddenly stop, we could all still live our lives in much the same way, except those working for the BBC of course.
The roads are infrastructure, but we pay road tax for it. If I don't have a car, I don't pay road tax. As for the railway, correcdt me if I am wrong, but don't you need to purchase a ticket to use it?
As for Big Ben, I don't want to see it go, but if I had to pay over £100 a year to keep it, my opinion would soon change.
Big Ben is not worth £100PA to me. It's only a frikkin bell after all. It could be replaced.


I think the TV lisence is an out and out CON. I do watch BBC and I agree they do make some damn fine programmes, but I only watch BBC1 & BBC2. I don't listen to the radio (except sometimes internet radio, which is comercial) and I don't have digital TV.