Moving from USB to Ethernet - Page 2

jim28 · 20-11-2005, 22:54

still no good. The local area connect is enabled. What I can not understand is that it was working on the install day with the ethernet cable.

I seem to have two Ip addresses one for the ethernet and one for the usb?

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 82.11.166.41
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 82.11.166.254

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.49.192
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :

Any ideas?

Many thanks!

Graham M · 20-11-2005, 23:06

Have you unplugged the USB?

jim28 · 20-11-2005, 23:11

Yep...

20-11-2005, 23:15

I reckon uninstall the usb, but mine is nic, so I am biased

<edit> something to deal with that 169, in other words -

jim28 · 24-11-2005, 14:11

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Originally Posted by homealone

I reckon uninstall the usb, but mine is nic, so I am biased

<edit> something to deal with that 169, in other words -

I did that and it still does not work!!! This is driving me nuts!!!! Can anyone else help?

reload · 24-11-2005, 14:34

Looking at your post it seems to be the second Local Area Connection is causing the problems. Try disabling it and deleting it. The IP address in your first Local Area Connection appears to be a valid NTL IP - so in actual fact the machine is connected.

On reflection though... how are you posting here? Do you have your modem plugged in with USB at the moment?

Another alternative, similar to that others have mentioned:
Unplug the USB connection from the modem and PC.
Unplug the power from the modem.
If you're on Windows XP, you don't need to shut the PC down.
Plug the Ethernet cable in at both ends.
Plug the power into the modem and wait for the lights to settle.
Take a look at the Ethernet connections. One or the other should show a valid IP address. Disable and/or delete the Local Area Connection with a 169 IP address.

Bob should then be your mother's brother.

jim28 · 24-11-2005, 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by reload

Looking at your post it seems to be the second Local Area Connection is causing the problems. Try disabling it and deleting it. The IP address in your first Local Area Connection appears to be a valid NTL IP - so in actual fact the machine is connected.

On reflection though... how are you posting here? Do you have your modem plugged in with USB at the moment?

Another alternative, similar to that others have mentioned:
Unplug the USB connection from the modem and PC.
Unplug the power from the modem.
If you're on Windows XP, you don't need to shut the PC down.
Plug the Ethernet cable in at both ends.
Plug the power into the modem and wait for the lights to settle.
Take a look at the Ethernet connections. One or the other should show a valid IP address. Disable and/or delete the Local Area Connection with a 169 IP address.

Bob should then be your mother's brother.

Deleting the Local Area Connection 2 is what I have just done and it did not work. I am using the USB connection to post here. I seem to remember the NTL support person talking about a corrupt ip address? Is this legitimate or just a load of b*ll?

reload · 24-11-2005, 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by jim28

Deleting the Local Area Connection 2 is what I have just done and it did not work. I am using the USB connection to post here. I seem to remember the NTL support person talking about a corrupt ip address? Is this legitimate or just a load of b*ll?

Likely a load of bull. Personally, I'd try the steps in my previous post - except: After removing both the ethernet and usb cables, delete both local area connections then power down the PC. Whack the ethernet in at both ends, power up the modem (and wait for it to settle), then power up the PC and see if it helps.

2||Para · 24-11-2005, 15:05

Just out of interest have you installed the ethernet drivers for your motherboard?

gba93 · 24-11-2005, 15:13

May be of no help at all but when I moved from USB to ethernet I had the same problem, tried all the same things and then it was resolved by simply turning off the computer and then the modem, leaving it for a short while (say five minutes) then switching on the modem again and then rebooting the computer.

Good luck.

tweetiepooh · 24-11-2005, 15:23

In common with many other problems of this ilk, can you remove Big Bad Bill's stuff from the equation and boot a live linux CD.

These will usually have a DHCP client built in and switched on. So power down everything, attach PC to modem/router whatever with proper cat5 cable, crossover or straight as required, power up and boot from CD with live linux distrib in it. If this gets a connection that works then it proves that the hardware is OK and it's something in windoze that's the problem.

You can check settings in linux using ifconfig -a from a shell prompt, may need to be root, or there is probably some form of config tool.

This will not touch your hard drive so should be totally safe.

I've never seen a USB network connection so can't comment on what you should see for that in either windoze or Linux.

Once you know the hardware is OK then you have to see where in windoze the problem lies. Maybe turn off USB totally in BIOS then boot to windoze, no good if you have USB keyboard/mouse.

jim28 · 24-11-2005, 17:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2||Para

Just out of interest have you installed the ethernet drivers for your motherboard?

How do I check this?

jim28 · 24-11-2005, 17:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetiepooh

In common with many other problems of this ilk, can you remove Big Bad Bill's stuff from the equation and boot a live linux CD.

These will usually have a DHCP client built in and switched on. So power down everything, attach PC to modem/router whatever with proper cat5 cable, crossover or straight as required, power up and boot from CD with live linux distrib in it. If this gets a connection that works then it proves that the hardware is OK and it's something in windoze that's the problem.

You can check settings in linux using ifconfig -a from a shell prompt, may need to be root, or there is probably some form of config tool.

This will not touch your hard drive so should be totally safe.

I've never seen a USB network connection so can't comment on what you should see for that in either windoze or Linux.

Once you know the hardware is OK then you have to see where in windoze the problem lies. Maybe turn off USB totally in BIOS then boot to windoze, no good if you have USB keyboard/mouse.

Where do I get the Linux cd from? Thanks.

tweetiepooh · 24-11-2005, 17:39

Lots of mags have linux CD's on cover. Latest PCW DVD edition has SUSE10 but that's a live DVD.
You can download and burn own image but if you need to do that look for a FTP install image. This gives a mini version of linux that does install but gets most of packages from the net. You don't need to actually install, all you need is to get it up and running and have the network system started.

The best bet is to pop to news agent and check cover disks though. Some may even have some windows diag tools that you can use to further aid.

Try FreshDiag from fresh devices. Needs to register but is free and has modules to show network settings.

2||Para · 24-11-2005, 19:06

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Originally Posted by jim28

How do I check this?

You should have a CD with your motherboards drivers ,utilities etc.On that disc will be ethernet drivers for the onboard ethernet adapter.Install them from the CD.