ntl statement regarding recent proxy issues - Page 2

02-10-2005, 13:10

whats the best proxy to use as i am in manchester and find myself been on slow access to sites such as ebuyer.com unless i login to my VPN

j52c · 02-10-2005, 14:29

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Originally Posted by Florence

I have found this site works ok for whois and has never been blocked on a manc proxy. also Samspade has never blocked Manc proxies If they are any use to you.

Thanks.

I sometimes use Whois. I forgot about Samspade, shouldn't have because the software is on every months cover disk in PC Pro mag and has some useful utils built in.

Chrysalis · 02-10-2005, 21:24

I find ebuyer slow on any ntl proxy, for some reason the ntl proxy technology doesnt work well on that site.

02-10-2005, 22:39

i updated my proxy to a baguley proxy and its not working fine for ebuyer.com

**Paul** · 02-10-2005, 22:48

ebuyer works fine for me on what ever Nottingham default is assigned to it.

Chrysalis · 04-10-2005, 00:27

I got a good reply from the ntl responsetek guy who answered my latest query he says he is going to send info I give him to the network management team.

IanUK · 04-10-2005, 09:13

Gamespy and one of my servers is back to terrible again, took about 4 proxy switches to get a semi decent speed

http://www.gamespy.com/articles/?con...section=Movies

Choosing any movie to stream is awful, AOL connection is fine again all the time.

Back to Reporting daily to NTL guy again

What a waste of time..

Chrysalis · 05-10-2005, 00:45

IanUK out of interest I never got given the contact details for the exec so all I can do is report by the responsetek, wether or not that will reach enough up the chain is unknown. The last response I got was just about the only promising response out of about 20 replies.

IanUK · 05-10-2005, 11:32

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IanUK out of interest I never got given the contact details for the exec so all I can do is report by the responsetek, wether or not that will reach enough up the chain is unknown. The last response I got was just about the only promising response out of about 20 replies.

I've given up, one of my servers has gone back to severe slowness after about 6pm using a variety of NTL proxies - some speed it up one night then are bad the next, I reported this to my contact at NTL along with a large list of all the sites that I know about that don't work with Poplar Proxies - but he said I would need to raise this as an issue again as he could not help me any longer

I told Mick thats it for me, I'm going to wait until I have more spare time then I'm going to look around for alternatives to NTL, the proxies are crap but they expect us to report each site *separately*, which is something I'm not prepared to do. They KNOW they are rubbish but ignore all the many complaints (3 complaints a week my ass - there are more than 3 a day on this forum alone sometimes).

I shall move to somewhere else when it suits me, I know the speeds won't be as fast as the proposed 10 meg, but I can't even get 3 meg with many sites using NTL so I guess it doesn't matter.

The only thing holding me back from making a move earlier is that apart from the proxies the internet service is good here, and gaming is excellent.

cheers

its been fun...sort of

Ian

**Paul** · 05-10-2005, 18:45

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Originally Posted by IanUK

I shall move to somewhere else when it suits me, I know the speeds won't be as fast as the proposed 10 meg, but I can't even get 3 meg with many sites using NTL so I guess it doesn't matter.

You won't get 3 meg with many sites anyway, they simply don't have the capacity at the server end.

IanUK · 06-10-2005, 09:44

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You won't get 3 meg with many sites anyway, they simply don't have the capacity at the server end.

True, but some can (Easynews/fileplanet for two) the problem is with NTL proxies you need to keep changing them almost every day to maintain those speeds, FTP and POP provide 3 meg on NTL fine, its just the proxies than play up.

But as I said, I'll just start looking around...

Chrysalis · 06-10-2005, 21:16

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Originally Posted by Paul M

You won't get 3 meg with many sites anyway, they simply don't have the capacity at the server end.

I beg to disagree, the average webserver now days will be on a 100mbit port and is more then capable of maxing out a 3mbit line, and I can fire up squid on a server and download at max speed of various sites around the us/uk/eu. It is only when using ntl proxies I hit issues, there are exceptions of course as there will be sites people run of T1 lines and their residental connections, a few 10mbit port servers etc. But when you hear of people downloading of microsoft at 20-30mbit in one thread and my NTL line struggles to top isdn speed you know its an NTL problem.

**Paul** · 06-10-2005, 22:59

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I beg to disagree, the average webserver now days will be on a 100mbit port and is more then capable of maxing out a 3mbit line.

The "average" webserver will be on nothing like a dedicated 100mbps connection.

A few large companies will have servers on 'real' 100mbps connections, but the majority do not. Even a 10mbps connection in a typical Datacentre will cost thousands per year - well out of the reach of the majority of companies.

Many servers may appear to be on 100mbit, but that's only because they have 100mbps NIC cards, they are throttled by the routers & switches they connect to in the DC. Many data centres only have a few 155mbps lines into them to serve hundreds of servers.

I suggest you look at places like fasthosts, memset, mailbox and the many other providers of dedicated servers in the uk (and us) and see just what you can get, and the prices. (here is an example from mailbox uk)

Chrysalis · 07-10-2005, 17:34

Paul I know since I have several servers located in various datacentre's, the average datacentre will have many gigE's running into it especially ones in america, like theplanet has over 20gig of transit available for its customers, in the uk many providers will have multiple gigs of transit also. The 100mbit ports do tend to be shared but they are fully burstable and it is unusual for a datacentre to be not equipped enough to max out the burst, usually the limiting factor isnt transit it is hardware capabilities, eg. a celeron with a realtek lan card is not going to hit 100mbit it will more likely be around half that. A example provider from the uk is openhosting here is a list of their transit.

Level(3) Communications - 1000 Mbps Fibre
Teleglobe - 1000 Mbps Fibre
Enta - 1000 Mbps Copper (soon)
Euroaccess (backup) - 100 Mbps
TSN (backup) - 100 Mbps
eXpress long range peering - 1000 Mbps

The enta is in place as I see traffic going through it.

concerning mailbox they seem to be years behind with whats been offered on that page, fasthosts have a terrible reputation and I wouldnt go near them.

contradictoryben · 08-10-2005, 00:41

Hi

A friend of mine sometimes can't access my website with the NTL caches, which seem to have picked up an internal view of my DNS rather than an external view. Could this be anything to do with the issues discussed above.

The web address is http://www.webofcontradictions.net This should NOT resolve to 192.168.0.2.