f****** Welsh - Page 2

Graham · 28-09-2005, 20:22

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Originally Posted by marky

I wonder who leeked the story

Russ · 28-09-2005, 21:11

I wonder if Gordon Brown would actually get to be Prime Minister if he said 'f***ing English'

Stuart · 28-09-2005, 21:37

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Darned cheek, with the abuse the English routinely put up with at the hands of the Welsh.

Yes but not major Welsh heads of state.

I certainly hope Blair gets taken to task over this but just like the Anne Robinson thing, it won't go anywhere.

It sounds like he said it in private (ie not a state occasion). Is he not entitled to express an opinion in private? It's similar in that way to being a mod on here. We are entitled to our own opinions which are seperate from our position.

I personally think it is a massive waste of police time investigating it. Before you say anything, I would think that if ANY minister had said anything like that about any race (including the English) in private.

me283 · 28-09-2005, 21:40

Well, knowing how he showed such disrespect for Jews in the run up to the election, this comes as no surprise anyway.

Russ · 28-09-2005, 21:40

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

It sounds like he said it in private (ie not a state occasion). Is he not entitled to express an opinion in private? It's similar in that way to being a mod on here. We are entitled to our own opinions which are seperate from our position.

Of course he's entitled to his opinion. But he may as well give up on that fake grin the next time he comes to Wales. He's lost a LOT of support here.

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

I personally think it is a massive waste of police time investigating it.

Me too, it's not like it's going to get anywhere. Us Welsh are seen as fair game I guess, in the media you can get away with saying what you want about us.

Stuart · 28-09-2005, 21:47

Well, TBH, I am not worried what Blair says in private. The reason I said the Police should not be wasting their time is that, when all is said and done, Blair used harsh and inappropriate language. It's not as if he committed a serious crime, such as killing someone.

me283 · 28-09-2005, 21:49

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

Well, TBH, I am not worried what Blair says in private. The reason I said the Police should not be wasting their time is that, when all is said and done, Blair used harsh and inappropriate language. It's not as if he committed a serious crime, such as killing someone.

Or speeding...

NitroNutter · 28-09-2005, 21:50

The welsh are nice ? hmmm well whatever takes your fancy, one of the welsh's favourite tricks to visitors is to loosen all the wheel nuts on at least one wheel, they almost killed me and my bro who I was visiting at the time, as he had moved there to live. Fortunatley I noticed something was not right with the car at 70mph on a dual carraige way in wales, stopped and checked and discovered the very nasty welsh administered death trick. At a guess the wheel had 5-10 minutes left on the car max, then me and my bro could well have been cart wheeling and rolling down that dual carraige way in a non standard fashion trying to catch up with the wheel that would have been careering and bouncing all over the road, which could actually have hit another vehicle and cause a lot more damge, maybe even to the prats family as it wasnt that far from where it had been done.

Perhaps this is one of the rare moments Mr Blair may have got something right.

Russ · 28-09-2005, 21:52

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

Well, TBH, I am not worried what Blair says in private. The reason I said the Police should not be wasting their time is that, when all is said and done, Blair used harsh and inappropriate language. It's not as if he committed a serious crime, such as killing someone.

Whether or not he broke the law (and I'm not saying he he did or didn't) is irrelevant - a crime is a crime.

All I ask for is equality - I'm not bothered about what some ignoramous thinks about me based purely on my nationality - the point is if someone would be reported for saying "f***ing pakis" then they should also be treated the same if they say "f***ing Welsh".

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The welsh are nice ? hmmm well whatever takes your fancy, one of the welsh's favourite tricks to visitors is to loosen all the wheel nuts on at least one wheel, they almost killed me and my bro who I was visiting at the time, as he had moved there to live.

I have never done that, none of my family or friends have ever done that, so please, enough of the generalisations.

I lived in Oxford for 6 months a few years back. When I walked in to a pub one day and ordered a drink, some guy next to me went "baaaaaa" - should I assume all Saesneg are like that? NO!

NitroNutter · 28-09-2005, 21:58

Its not a generalisation, the bloke at the scrapyard my bro had a part time job at, volunteered the info, stating its a regular welsh trick played on foreigners and is very nasty.

You may never have done it, neither may anyone you personally know, but the scrapyard owner was welsh thru and thru and a copper who was at the counter at the time also confirmed it.

Its one thing to utter words, its totally another thing to atempt murder, and on a regular basis.

Russ · 28-09-2005, 22:03

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Its not a generalisation, the bloke at the scrapyard my bro had a part time job at, volunteered the info, stating its a regular welsh trick played on foreigners and is very nasty.

As someone who has lived here for close to 30 years, I can tell you that's the first time I've ever heard of that happening to people because they're "foreignors" (your wording) to Wales. I can also assure you that "the bloke at the scrapyard" is talking out of his rusty bullet hole.

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You may never have done it, neither may anyone you personally know, but the scrapyard owner was welsh thru and thru and a copper who was at the counter at the time also confirmed it

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Therefore it's not something we do as a nation. Kind of makes your "one of the welsh's favourite tricks " comment redundant. Had you said "This is a trick played by some irresponsible people against the English which is not indicative of their countrymen" then you'd probably be closer to making sense.

Stuart · 28-09-2005, 22:06

In fairness, the Welsh (like any other race) have good and bad people..

clarie · 28-09-2005, 23:33

I find it hard to believe he is being investigated by the police over this! How ridiculous! Honestly, if everyone who spoke like that was investigated by the police then they would never have time for anything else!

The Welsh and the English are as bad as each other when it comes to racial stereotypes and general racist attitudes towards each other as far as I am concerned.

Millay · 29-09-2005, 00:10

Brilliant story....

Yes its insulting yes its not good... but hey hold on a minute... we all say things in the heat of the moment. What do we want as a politician a saint? no chance...

Hes probably spun this himself to bring back some more english support j/k

Graham · 29-09-2005, 02:54

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What do we want as a politician a saint? no chance...

What?! The Vicar of St Albions is *not* a candidate for sainthood?

Perish the thought...!