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Old Today, 11:41   #16
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Re: So much for the views held here

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‘Understanding the values of the average Brit’ you say. Do you have the numbers/evidence to support that or are you just testiculating*

*the art of waving one’s arms about whilst talking complete balls
I didn't say what the average Brit thinks - no need for evidence. I did say the bleedin' obvious - which is that the average Brit believes the opposite of left wing views. Don't you agree?

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Could you explain how that statistically defines ‘average’ ? Are you making the assumption that watchers are reform
Voters ? Or?
Why not stay with the bleedin' obvious instead of unnecessarily going into the weeds?
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Re: So much for the views held here

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A lot has changed since last month, then...

From the BARB website

https://www.barb.co.uk/monthly-viewing/



Also, from the Press Gazette (where the figures don't match Guido's)

https://pressgazette.co.uk/publisher...sky-july-2025/



Oh, I see - GB News is beating the BBC News Channel in the morning, when most people watch the BBC News on BBC1...
Guido appears to have cherry-picked one day when GBN beat BBC/Sky. The Barb figures are monthly totals while the UKPG is talking about weeklies, either of which would flatten out any one-off spikes caused by a particular event/programme/one off guest/etc.
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Is there another channel so overtly right wing?
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Here we go. “Right wing” - what’s wrong with GB News understanding the feelings of the average Brit?
Wind that neck back in. Who said there’s anything wrong with “right wing”?
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Re: So much for the views held here

Leaving aside that they cherry-picked the stats, it's probably not that surprising if they were to be the most popular. BBC and Sky News are pretty dry and essentially repeat the same segments outside of the morning and evening slots. Out of the relatively small demographic of people who watch rolling news, I think GB News is more likely to have a partisan and engaged audience who are getting more commentary and interesting shows. It's closer to the American style of news channel, with less focus on standard reporting and more emphasis on personalities and entertainment.

It's not how I think news should be done, but you can't argue that they're not doing something different.

I must admit I was wrong on them. I thought there would be room for one right-wing news channel, but I thought it would be TalkTV or whatever it was called, the Murdoch one.
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Wind that neck back in. Who said there’s anything wrong with “right wing”?
I didn't and I didn't accuse you of saying that. The question you dodged was:

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And the question you’re dodging is

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Is there another channel so overtly right wing?
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And the question you’re dodging is
You dodged my request for a clarification of "right wing".

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Indeed what is “right wing”? Gas the Muslims? Gas the Jews? Gas the Catholics? Gas the Tories? You can’t put a valid finger on “Right Wing” in the general UK context. Yet everyone knows what the “left wing” is - and it is the opposite of what the average Brit believes.
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Re: So much for the views held here

You know exactly what right wing means. As such you’ve still not answered my question and it’s safe to say you’ll keep doing that.
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You know exactly what right wing means. As such you’ve still not answered my question and it’s safe to say you’ll keep doing that.
Having a contrary opinion to that of Kier Starmer and his labour loonies
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You know exactly what right wing means. As such you’ve still not answered my question and it’s safe to say you’ll keep doing that.
As if you didn't know, it was YOUR definition I was seeking. Surely you can provide that.
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As if you didn't know, it was YOUR definition I was seeking.
No, I didn't know. I can't read minds. I asked a question and you avoided it by starting off with "here we go", then went on about an unsubstantiated point about the "average Brit".

GB News takes a right-wing stance on issues, and any politicians presenting are right-wing.

Armed with this new knowledge, you can now answer the question.

Or not.
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No, I didn't know. I can't read minds. I asked a question and you avoided it by starting off with "here we go", then went on about an unsubstantiated point about the "average Brit".

GB News takes a right-wing stance on issues, and any politicians presenting are right-wing.

Armed with this new knowledge, you can now answer the question.

Or not.
Before I answer your question, I need to know what you mean by "right wing". That term lies at the centre of what you are saying/asking.

So, what do you mean by "right wing"?
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Re: So much for the views held here

I've no idea if I'm a Right Winger or a Left Winger, what are the characteristics I should look for in order to be assigned a label?
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You described yourself as “right wing” in the past. You figure it out.
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