UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
10-02-2025, 12:20
|
#16
|
|
vox populi vox dei
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: the last resort
Services: every thing
Posts: 14,553
|
Re: UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K
You can, Freedom of Information Act. Maybe the Govt wants it to work both ways?
|
__________________
To be or not to be, woke is the question Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer. The slings and arrows of outrageous wokedome, Or to take arms against a sea of wokies. And by opposing end them.
|
|
|
|
10-02-2025, 13:09
|
#17
|
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 15,152
|
Re: UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf
i have no problem with the gov accessing my phone as long as i can accesses theirs in this spirit of nothing to hid
|
Not sure I want to read those 'charming' WhatsApp messages from what we've learnt so far!
|
|
|
|
|
10-02-2025, 14:40
|
#18
|
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 10,668
|
Re: UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
At the end of the day the people are going to have to decide upon two things.
1) What is more important to them, their own personal privacy or law enforcement agencies being able to find child sex abusers, terrorists etc. As most people won't have been affected by such acts, I suspect that they will opt for the former.
2) Who rules our country and decides how the law should operate, the elected government of the day, or website owners?
Last edited by RichardCoulter; 10-02-2025 at 15:30.
Reason: Correction FAC TBE.
|
|
|
|
|
10-02-2025, 16:01
|
#19
|
|
vox populi vox dei
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: the last resort
Services: every thing
Posts: 14,553
|
Re: UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
At the end of the day the people are going to have to decide upon two things.
1) What is more important to them, their own personal privacy or law enforcement agencies being able to find child sex abusers, terrorists etc. As most people won't have been affected by such acts, I suspect that they will opt for the former.
2) Who rules our country and decides how the law should operate, the elected government of the day, or website owners?
|
It's very good of you to give us 2 options
__________________
To be or not to be, woke is the question Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer. The slings and arrows of outrageous wokedome, Or to take arms against a sea of wokies. And by opposing end them.
|
|
|
|
|
10-02-2025, 16:54
|
#20
|
|
Grumpy Fecker
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Warrington
Age: 65
Services: Every Weekend
Posts: 16,951
|
Re: UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K
You can, Freedom of Information Act. Maybe the Govt wants it to work both ways?
|
They would refuse on the grounds of national security which is the standard cop out.
|
|
|
|
|
10-02-2025, 17:09
|
#21
|
|
An Awesome Dude
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 4,811
|
Quote:
|
Originally Posted by papa smurf
i have no problem with the gov accessing my phone as long as i can accesses theirs in this spirit of nothing to hid
|
Now that sounds excellent!!
I doubt they would agree though!
|
|
|
|
|
11-02-2025, 01:23
|
#22
|
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 10,668
|
Re: UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf
It's very good of you to give us 2 options
|
What additional options would you say are available?
Last edited by RichardCoulter; 11-02-2025 at 01:31.
Reason: Correction FAC NAS
|
|
|
|
|
11-02-2025, 08:17
|
#23
|
|
vox populi vox dei
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: the last resort
Services: every thing
Posts: 14,553
|
Re: UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
What additional options would you say are available?
|
This is your fantasy not mine 
__________________
To be or not to be, woke is the question Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer. The slings and arrows of outrageous wokedome, Or to take arms against a sea of wokies. And by opposing end them.
|
|
|
|
|
11-02-2025, 08:35
|
#24
|
|
RIP Tigger - 12 years?!
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bolton
Age: 59
Services: EE Superfast Broadband
Posts: 1,554
|
Re: UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K
What have folks got to hide? Undeclared income? dodgy torrent data? Or even worse?
The Govt knows best surely?  |
You are taking the mick, I hope.  It's not a question of having anything to hide. Governments have a very poor track record on data safety. They already know, or are finding out, things they don't need to know and shouldn't. I got asked for bank statements by the DWP - when they've just been given ridiculously broad powers to look at people's bank accounts. "Oh, he's got an ISA, he might be hiding 1000s'.
Yeah. I didn't immediately declare it, granted, but that's because mine has precisely 1p in it, and has had since March '22. I got it years ago and I keep it open just in case. But in fact my bank balance has never even reached 5 figures. I mean never.
__________________
"People tend to confuse the words 'new' and 'improved'."
- Agent Phil Coulson, S.H.I.E.L.D.
WINDOWS 11, ANYONE?!
|
|
|
|
|
11-02-2025, 08:57
|
#25
|
|
Hello !
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Somewhere
Services: Sky, AppleTV, Netflix
Posts: 16,775
|
Re: UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
I get that it is important to uncover all those doing dodgy things but essentially the government are labelling everyone as that and at the end of the day it is invading my privacy.
|
|
|
|
|
11-02-2025, 09:37
|
#26
|
|
vox populi vox dei
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: the last resort
Services: every thing
Posts: 14,553
|
Re: UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halcyon
I get that it is important to uncover all those doing dodgy things but essentially the government are labelling everyone as that and at the end of the day it is invading my privacy.
|
Welcome to communism
__________________
To be or not to be, woke is the question Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer. The slings and arrows of outrageous wokedome, Or to take arms against a sea of wokies. And by opposing end them.
|
|
|
|
|
11-02-2025, 13:58
|
#27
|
|
Do I care what you think
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Cardiff South Wales
Age: 74
Services: V6 ,Virgin L. Phone Broadband.sky go Netflix
Posts: 5,044
|
Re: UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf
Welcome to communism
|
What you calling our beloved labour party. 
__________________
No point in being pessimistic. You know it won`t work.
|
|
|
|
|
11-02-2025, 16:51
|
#28
|
|
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 68
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 43,463
|
Re: UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim
What you calling our beloved labour party. |
Are we discussing the Investigatory Powers (Amendment) Act 2024 that received Royal Assent in April 2024?
__________________
Thank you for calling the Abyss.
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare.
If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
|
|
|
|
|
11-02-2025, 19:45
|
#29
|
|
cf.mega poster
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 10,668
|
Re: UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halcyon
I get that it is important to uncover all those doing dodgy things but essentially the government are labelling everyone as that and at the end of the day it is invading my privacy.
|
Well, we can't have it both ways can we. To uncover dodgy activity we're going to have to accept innocuous things no longer being private or retain our privacy and accept that terrorist plots, paedophile activity etc etc will go undetected.
I have asked if anyone has ideas for a third way that satisfies both, but nobody seems to have any suggestions.
|
|
|
|
|
11-02-2025, 22:18
|
#30
|
|
Dr Pepper Addict
Cable Forum Team
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Nottingham
Age: 62
Services: Aquiss FTTP (900M), Sky Q TV, Sky Mobile, Flextel SIP
Posts: 29,565
|
Re: UK trying to access your private data on Apple.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Well, we can't have it both ways can we. To uncover dodgy activity we're going to have to accept innocuous things no longer being private or retain our privacy and accept that terrorist plots, paedophile activity etc etc will go undetected.
I have asked if anyone has ideas for a third way that satisfies both, but nobody seems to have any suggestions.
|
You make the same mistake as the idiots requesting this.
It WILL NOT suddenly stop "terrorist plots, paedophile activity etc etc".
They will simply move on to using something else, all that will be affected is OUR privacy.
There is no "third way". The answer is as simple as its always been, leave it alone.
__________________
 Baby, I was born this way.
|
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 23:09.
|
Join CF
You are here: 
