Football : Season 2024/2025

[thenry]

Do you remember Michael Owen saying that Liverpool would get top 4 in place of reigning Champions League qualifiers Arsenal As frustrating as those days were I kind of miss them

[denphone]

Originally Posted by thenry

Do you remember Michael Owen saying that Liverpool would get top 4 in place of reigning Champions League qualifiers Arsenal As frustrating as those days were I kind of miss them

Michael Owen is best served sticking to his horses now as his punditry and predictions like many are clueless.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by denphone

Michael Owen is best served sticking to his horses now as his punditry and predictions like many are clueless.

Great goal against Argentina though, give him that

I'll make the most of this while I can.

[thenry]

I don't even rate this squad Arteta and co have assembled.

No doubt after being forced fed the Kroenkes by certain "journalists" the fan base who originally disliked the owner will beg for them to do something

[nffc]

Still 3rd after everyone has played.


Might get that passport renewed...

Originally Posted by nffc

Still 3rd after everyone has played.

If anyone had said at the start of the season, that after 10 games, you'll be 3rd, I would have thought them nuts.
Will it last, probably not, I guess we'll see as we have Newcastle, Arsenal & Man City as three of the next four matches.

[thenry]

Arsenal sporting director Edu to leave club; reasons behind Brazilian's exit as yet unclear; Gunners have been taken by surprise by his decision; sources have told Sky Sports News the Brazilian has been under consideration for a role with Evangelos Marinakis's group of clubs

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...y-his-decision

How do you Nottingham Forest fans take to this news? I'm glad he's going. He's bang average. I hope Arteta follows suit.

[nffc]

Originally Posted by thenry

How do you Nottingham Forest fans take to this news? I'm glad he's going. He's bang average. I hope Arteta follows suit.

Personally I thought he was doing a good job there.


Arteta has had a lot to turn around as like Man U post SAF you lot weren't as good at the end of Wenger's time and whether or not Emery was the right choice he wasn't given time to rebuild.


Given the last couple of windows I'm not sure I'd want to swap Nuno or Ross Wilson for Arteta or Edu though. Whoever decided to get Matz Sels and Nikola Milenkovic... well

[thenry]

Originally Posted by nffc

Personally I thought he was doing a good job there.


Arteta has had a lot to turn around as like Man U post SAF you lot weren't as good at the end of Wenger's time and whether or not Emery was the right choice he wasn't given time to rebuild.


Given the last couple of windows I'm not sure I'd want to swap Nuno or Ross Wilson for Arteta or Edu though. Whoever decided to get Matz Sels and Nikola Milenkovic... well

I agree re: Emery. I can only wonder what he could have done with 700 odd million

Arteta inherited a side that went onto win the FA cup. His only achievement. All this talk of him being left a mess is nonsense.

Edu played it safe when he started his role at Arsenal buying players from Brazil, fair enough if thats his strength. He then took rejects and happily paid for players in their last year. Foolish behaviour in my opinion.

[nffc]

Originally Posted by thenry

I agree re: Emery. I can only wonder what he could have done with 700 odd million

Arteta inherited a side that went onto win the FA cup. His only achievement. All this talk of him being left a mess is nonsense.

Edu played it safe when he started his role at Arsenal buying players from Brazil, fair enough if thats his strength. He then took rejects and happily paid for players in their last year. Foolish behaviour in my opinion.

I guess the key point is that I'm neither an Arsenal fan nor was I particularly interested in what was happening in the PL whilst we weren't in it, aside from the odd cup interaction where largely speaking we got hammered by the PL side.


So I think the key point with Wenger's last season is them losing 4-2 in the cup at home to us, it was also one of the few occasions Wenger lost in R3. I think you guys were holders at the time too and we had Gary Brazil in charge as caretaker. But it showed his time was on the wane.


Checking wikipedia that close season Emery brought in 4 players for fees, nothing extravagant, and 2 of them being Guendouzi and Leno. You did bring in a fair amount the season after, but they didn't look like bad buys really and it wasn't extravagant spending given the year before.



You came 5th that season and improved on 6th the year before though the season after where you finished 8th and won the FA Cup wasn't really progress but more of the same.



But it had been 15-16 the last time you finished in a CL place.


Given Arteta a couple of seasons and then you get 2 2nd place finishes. Would another have done it quicker or even more than that? Who knows


Edu sticking to what he knows is not too bad a thing really. But he would work on getting knowledge on other markets if he was decent at his job


here we seem to have various targets in various areas such that you can perhaps tell who might have signed them. Syrianos, who has a similar group role with us, Oly and Rio Ave, tends to target cheaper/young players from the Bundesliga. Marinakis' lad likes the marquee signings like when we got Lingard and probably also Keylor Navas

[thenry]

Originally Posted by nffc

I guess the key point is that I'm neither an Arsenal fan nor was I particularly interested in what was happening in the PL whilst we weren't in it, aside from the odd cup interaction where largely speaking we got hammered by the PL side.

The media spin on it is unreal.

Originally Posted by nffc

So I think the key point with Wenger's last season is them losing 4-2 in the cup at home to us, it was also one of the few occasions Wenger lost in R3. I think you guys were holders at the time too and we had Gary Brazil in charge as caretaker. But it showed his time was on the wane.

I'll be honest I tuned out around 2016 for a few seasons. Something tragic had to happen for change because of the now clear direction the ownership was going.

Originally Posted by nffc

Checking wikipedia that close season Emery brought in 4 players for fees, nothing extravagant, and 2 of them being Guendouzi and Leno. You did bring in a fair amount the season after, but they didn't look like bad buys really and it wasn't extravagant spending given the year before.

Pepe was signed as a marquee signing, all 80 odd million. The powers that be turned out to be frauds. Guendouzi was a really good signing, he was showing great promise at u21 level but it was attitude issues which cost him a place to remain at Arsenal. I don't buy into his attitude being a problem. I reckon he was a winner which clashed with losers. Leno was ok, a second rate Neuer. There was no real planning under Emery. He didn't have what he wanted but carried on and done well. Europa League finalists with a club that was coming up short soo many times in Europe. His short coming was not getting a top 4 finish, I genuinely felt bad for him.

Originally Posted by nffc

You came 5th that season and improved on 6th the year before though the season after where you finished 8th and won the FA Cup wasn't really progress but more of the same.

Emery laid the foundations for the FA cup win. Aubameyang, the bad apple, won him the cup who he and the board got rid of for free which Barcelona then got 12 million for. Unreal behaviour.

Originally Posted by nffc

But it had been 15-16 the last time you finished in a CL place.

I soon tuned out after that.

Originally Posted by nffc

Given Arteta a couple of seasons and then you get 2 2nd place finishes. Would another have done it quicker or even more than that? Who knows

Emery would have won a cup at the very least with 700 million. I have no doubt he would have done something.

Originally Posted by nffc

Edu sticking to what he knows is not too bad a thing really. But he would work on getting knowledge on other markets if he was decent at his job

He brought in Martinelli. An actual winger. He was bound to get something right with the spending power.

Originally Posted by nffc

here we seem to have various targets in various areas such that you can perhaps tell who might have signed them. Syrianos, who has a similar group role with us, Oly and Rio Ave, tends to target cheaper/young players from the Bundesliga. Marinakis' lad likes the marquee signings like when we got Lingard and probably also Keylor Navas

I can't comment on your club. I don't have the knowledge.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Great goal against Argentina though, give him that

Yes l will give you that.

[iadom]

Well for a treat to myself for my birthday and as there was no game at Old Trafford today I watched my first ever non league game. Went to Boundary Park to watch Oldham Athletic v Tamworth. It was bloody cold but an enjoyable game as Latics won 4-0.

[thenry]

Harry Kanes statue looks like Tom Brady

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...y-Hackney.html