US and UK launch strikes against Houthi rebels

[jfman]

There’s nothing “hard left” about the reality that investment in the Ukraine war machine for us (like for the Americans) results in the vast majority of the money flowing back to us.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2477472.html

It’s literally there in black and white. Money goes to Ukraine to purchase drones. We manufacture drones. There’s no conspiracy theory involved.

Similarly American politicians are on record about the value of the investment in Ukraine that returns to American shores in terms of jobs, specifically weapons manufacturers.

Originally Posted by jfman

There’s nothing “hard left” about the reality that investment in the Ukraine war machine for us (like for the Americans) results in the vast majority of the money flowing back to us.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2477472.html

It’s literally there in black and white. Money goes to Ukraine to purchase drones. We manufacture drones. There’s no conspiracy theory involved.

Similarly American politicians are on record about the value of the investment in Ukraine that returns to American shores in terms of jobs, specifically weapons manufacturers.

“Money is being spent with UK arms manufacturers” is a fact.

“We are involved in Ukraine so we can spend money with UK arms manufacturers” is a conspiracy theory.

It is difficult to understand your claim that Sunak is making “trips to Ukraine to fund our military industrial complex” in any way other than indulging in that conspiracy theory.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by Chris

“Money is being spent with UK arms manufacturers” is a fact.

“We are involved in Ukraine so we can spend money with UK arms manufacturers” is a conspiracy theory.

It is difficult to understand your claim that Sunak is making “trips to Ukraine to fund our military industrial complex” in any way other than indulging in that conspiracy theory.

If it’s helpful happy to revise to trip that funds our military industrial complex.

Either way he’s there for the PR.

Edit: I’ve just realised my 10,000th post was earlier in the thread.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by jfman

If it’s helpful happy to revise to trip that funds our military industrial complex.

Either way he’s there for the PR.

Edit: I’ve just realised my 10,000th post was earlier in the thread.

Congratulations on your 10,000th post, you win a role of tinfoil

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Congratulations on your 10,000th post, you win a role of tinfoil

Oh come on Sirius, surely it deserves 2 rolls of extra wide tin foil at least.

[nomadking]

Bit puzzled as to how attacking ships wasn't an escalation. Same with Oct 7th attacks by Hamas. How much non-escalation escalating is to be allowed before any response?
If somebody hits you when trying to incite a response, and don't get one, they will keep hitting more frequently and harder until they get one.

[Gavin78]

Originally Posted by nomadking

Bit puzzled as to how attacking ships wasn't an escalation. Same with Oct 7th attacks by Hamas. How much non-escalation escalating is to be allowed before any response?
If somebody hits you when trying to incite a response, and don't get one, they will keep hitting more frequently and harder until they get one.

I agree, they decided to start firing at military ships at this point I don't see why there shouldn't be a response back.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Gavin78

I agree, they decided to start firing at military ships at this point I don't see why there shouldn't be a response back.

They were attacking civilian ships, which don't have the ability to defend themselves.

[Dude111]

Originally Posted by noel43

As usual we will do what the US wants us to do.

Terrible to get you guys involved..... THE US SHOULDNT EVEN BE INVOLVED

The US think they own the world and its sickening!!

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Dude111

Terrible to get you guys involved..... THE US SHOULDNT EVEN BE INVOLVED

The US think they own the world and its sickening!!

The Houthi attacks are on international shipping. Who else is going to deal with that? China?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Chris

I grant you, our Prime Miniature will be thinking that footage of him touring Ukraine or ordering the RN into action will play well with the electorate, but the suggestion that this is why he’s doing it doesn’t stand up to even a microsecond’s actual thought.

Kind of does when the prime miniature squeaked his rationale for the strikes was because the Houti's were damaging peoples shopping

Also the precise strikes he mentioned killed 5 people apparently, 73 missiles launched and 5 dead, we could teach Israel a thing or two or they could teach us a thing or two

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Kind of does when the prime miniature squeaked his rationale for the strikes was because the Houti's were damaging peoples shopping

Also the precise strikes he mentioned killed 5 people apparently, 73 missiles launched and 5 dead, we could teach Israel a thing or two or they could teach us a thing or two

So, to flip it on its head, do you believe that the Houthi regime should have been allowed to continue firing missiles at civilian shipping in the Red Sea unopposed?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Chris

So, to flip it on its head, do you believe that the Houthi regime should have been allowed to continue firing missiles at civilian shipping in the Red Sea unopposed?

I've not said that or intimated that anywhere so lets flip it back to that great statesman and his concerns about damaged shopping, marvellous isn't it, he can stop the Houti's small boats thousands of miles away but can't stop ones 20 miles away

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

he can stop the Houti's small boats thousands of miles away but can't stop ones 20 miles away

Well, they could use the same method, but I suspect you (and others) might complain if they stopped the "ones 20 miles away" with missiles & air strikes.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Paul

Well, they could use the same method, but I suspect you (and others) might complain if they stopped the "ones 20 miles away" with missiles & air strikes.

If they were damaging shopping then they'd fully deserve it and I wouldn't give a hoot(i)