Virgin Media price rises break the law
26-08-2023, 22:02
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
If you agree to pay £50 a month for 24 months, it should be £50 a month for 24 months. The RPI/CPI + arbitrary percentage doesn't give you any level of certainty about what you'll be paying in 18 months time, whereas it gives the provider a lot of certainty. It's not a fair contract. Now that everyone is doing it, it's not even avoidable, which adds more unfairness.
Hopefully Ofcom change the rules. Providers pay for a lot of their things via multi-year contracts too, so it's not like they can't be certain about their own costs for 24 months.
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27-08-2023, 13:38
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
Once Ofcom change the rules look out for the 5-10% “just in case” tax going onto the prices next time it comes to renewing. There’s almost zero chance of such a regulatory change actually benefitting consumers.
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27-08-2023, 16:23
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
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Originally Posted by jfman
Once Ofcom change the rules look out for the 5-10% “just in case” tax going onto the prices next time it comes to renewing. There’s almost zero chance of such a regulatory change actually benefitting consumers.
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As long as choice and increased competition remain then that will control prices. VMs unfair rules are designed to tie customers in whatever the unknown rise and stop choice/cancellation.
You'd hope Ofcom would be strong enough to make the current contracts null and void - I somehow doubt it.
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27-08-2023, 16:30
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
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Originally Posted by Mr K
As long as choice and increased competition remain then that will control prices. VMs unfair rules are designed to tie customers in whatever the unknown rise and stop choice/cancellation.
You'd hope Ofcom would be strong enough to make the current contracts null and void - I somehow doubt it.
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Increased competition doesn’t stop them putting these clauses in. There’s no reason to anticipate it’d stop pricing in a premium as a consequence.
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27-08-2023, 18:53
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
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Increased competition doesn’t stop them putting these clauses in. There’s no reason to anticipate it’d stop pricing in a premium as a consequence.
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Did anyone hold a gun to anyones head , it's not as if people didn't understand stand what they signed up to. Just walked away from a long term supplier because of a price increase. Told him so, offered to reverse the charge but he can take a running jump . 
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27-08-2023, 19:04
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
However, some of us have the challenge that VM has no comparable competition (speed wise) in our area - I can get around 47Mb form non-VM Telcos at the moment, with no forecast date for fibre
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27-08-2023, 20:58
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
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Originally Posted by Hugh
However, some of us have the challenge that VM has no comparable competition (speed wise) in our area - I can get around 47Mb form non-VM Telcos at the moment, with no forecast date for fibre
From the OpenReach site
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10mb used to be considered good enough for most things, and it is.
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27-08-2023, 21:06
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
The property I am looking to buy has maximum of 11, should be 5-8 and a guaranteed minimum of 3.
That’s not useable to work from home.
Luckily I’ve just found I can get Skylink which should give me useable speeds.
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27-08-2023, 21:27
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
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However, some of us have the challenge that VM has no comparable competition (speed wise) in our area
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That’s like complaining that I only have choice between garages that sell Aston Martin’s and Ford Fiesta’s.
I demand there are also Ferrari and Lamborghini garages here too.
At least you have that choice. Just Fiesta’s and Lada’s for me.
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27-08-2023, 21:31
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
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That’s like complaining that I only have choice between garages that sell Aston Martin’s and Ford Fiesta’s.
I demand there are also Ferrari and Lamborghini garages here too.
At least you have that choice. Just Fiesta’s and Lada’s for me.
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Fiesta, every time.
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28-08-2023, 01:39
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
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Originally Posted by Hugh
However, some of us have the challenge that VM has no comparable competition (speed wise) in our area - I can get around 47Mb form non-VM Telcos at the moment, with no forecast date for fibre
From the OpenReach site
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Build planned between now and Dec-2026
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It said that for my area, then FTTP suddenly arrived last summer.
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28-08-2023, 08:04
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
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It said that for my area, then FTTP suddenly arrived last summer.
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Says the same but was hoping for it before Feb but I doubt it now. Will have to try to haggle hard with VM for a deal that covers 2 April price hikes
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28-08-2023, 09:40
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
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10mb used to be considered good enough for most things, and it is.
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Black & white TV used to be considered good enough for most things, but life/technology moves on…
You’re turning into the dude (no, not The Big Lebowski…).
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28-08-2023, 09:54
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
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10mb used to be considered good enough for most things, and it is.
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My first modem was 2400 Baud down and 300 up. It worked but I wouldn’t recommend it now. It only cost £799 but data charges were excessive.
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28-08-2023, 10:01
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Re: Virgin Media price rises break the law
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Black & white TV used to be considered good enough for most things, but life/technology moves on…
You’re turning into the dude (no, not The Big Lebowski…).
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10mb is more than good enough to stream HDTV , it used to be the top tier
https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...-years-gone-by
not sure Dude would be impressed though 
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