General : No TV license, but cheaper to include TV package

Originally Posted by epsilon

The OP did state that they were leaving the TV 360 in the box

Your comments referred to them not being able to watch Netflix if they did so.
I simply pointed out they were obviously not using it for Netflix, nor expecting to use it, since they were not expecting the box at all.

Originally Posted by BenDude89

..while checking the contract details a day after the sales call, I noticed the mention of the Virgin TV 360 box. This was never mentioned on the call ..

[RichardCoulter]

Does the 360 continually record TV in the background for delay TV?

[ozsat]

Only when not in standby - like the V6/TiVo. But I think only the current channel.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Does the 360 continually record TV in the background for delay TV?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by ozsat

Only when not in standby - like the V6/TiVo. But I think only the current channel.

So if it's being used for anything at all, it will be recording live TV by default and require a TV licence.

Best not to use it at all, but for the sake of £3ish a week after getting a good deal from Virgin, personaly i'd avoid the visits, letters etc and buy a TVL and obtain the benefit of what i'm paying for.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

So if it's being used for anything at all, it will be recording live TV by default and require a TV licence.

Best not to use it at all, but for the sake of £3ish a week after getting a good deal from Virgin, personaly i'd avoid the visits, letters etc and buy a TVL and obtain the benefit of what i'm paying for.

If you read the OP he clearly asks about keeping it in the box anyway

[ozsat]

All current VM, Sky and BT recording kit record the currently active channel.

A lot of Smart TV's with a disc in the USB will do too.

But, as said above, the OP doesn't want to use the tv box.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

So if it's being used for anything at all, it will be recording live TV by default and require a TV licence.

Best not to use it at all, but for the sake of £3ish a week after getting a good deal from Virgin, personaly i'd avoid the visits, letters etc and buy a TVL and obtain the benefit of what i'm paying for.

[RichardCoulter]

Yeah, if it's never unboxed there isn't a problem. It just seems daft not to avail oneself of the facility for the sake of £3 a week though, but everyone and their needs are different.

[BenDude89]

Thanks for the thorough discussion everyone. I do think it's mad that it's cheaper for me to accept the TV Box from Virgin. I will keep it in its box, sealed if possible, and and I'll continue to not have a TV license as I never watch iPlayer or stream live TV

[epsilon]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

That is totally incorrect

You have to watch or record live TV not just own property that can facilitate it or it would include a PC a Laptop and mobile a tablet ect

If they raided you and it was plugged in of course they could argue you use it

A licence is required not just to record live tv but to install equipment capable of recording it.

https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/...framework-AB16

Where does TV Licensing law apply?
The law that requires a TV Licence for using or installing television receiving equipment to watch or record television programmes as they are being shown on TV, or to download or watch BBC programmes, including catch up TV, on BBC iPlayer applies in the UK (England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland), the Channel Islands and Isle of Man.

So there you have it.

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Originally Posted by Paul

Your comments referred to them not being able to watch Netflix if they did so.
I simply pointed out they were obviously not using it for Netflix, nor expecting to use it, since they were not expecting the box at all.

Absolutely not, my comment referred to them not being able to watch Netflix on the TV 360. Many other devices are available for watching Netflix which are not capable of recording live tv. As, I am sure, the OP and, pretty much, everyone else on here will be aware.

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Originally Posted by BenDude89

Thanks for the thorough discussion everyone. I do think it's mad that it's cheaper for me to accept the TV Box from Virgin. I will keep it in its box, sealed if possible, and and I'll continue to not have a TV license as I never watch iPlayer or stream live TV

Indeed but that is how product "bundles" work. It would cost me more to opt for a lower broadband speed, you are correct, it is mad.

Originally Posted by epsilon

Absolutely not, my comment referred to them not being able to watch Netflix on the TV 360.

Which is exactly what I said, twice now.
You seem to want to argue just for the sake of it.

Regardless, this has run its course now, Closed.