General : With the rise of the big players do we risk losing our identity ?

[Horizon]

Originally Posted by muppetman11

Virgin Media under Liberty Global

Sky potentially soon under Comcast ownership

Viacom owning Channel 5

Itv having so much speculation about being a potential takeover target by bigger media companies.

The rise of the streamers like Amazon and Netflix


With all this overseas involvement do we risk losing our identity and also risk seeing less and less UK content ?

As you cite all media companies, I'm assuming your question is just a media one, rather than a wider question on British identity.

I love nothing more than a good British drama or comedy. But as far as the good 'ole sitcom goes, they're pretty much extinct now. That's not the fault of the Americans, though.

A few American spy related films and shows I've seen set in modern day Britain has shown British policemen running through train stations or streets blowing whistles.... I think the last time they did that was in the 1950's.

In Game of Thrones, characters like Jamie Lannister are called Ser Jamie, rather than Sir Jamie. Obviously, lazy Americans couldn't be bothered to get the spelling right on that.

So, yes, in that sense, if our identity or culture is through an American lens, it can be altered or changed, watered down etc. But...

Game of Thrones is superb. American made, American written, American money but with a mostly British cast and crew. Imagine ITV ever attempting anything like that? Like hell! The same as The Crown, currently the most expense show made ever.

With some British shows, I quite even don't even bother with them now, if I know they will only be a few episodes in the entire series, as I prefer the American binge watching of seeing three or four eps a day and get through a whole series in a week.

If it were a choice between purely American shows like Homeland and Breaking Bad, or purely British shows like Jeremy Kyle and Come Dine with me, I know what I'd choose. I just wish the British broadcasters, while they still exist, put on better stuff. Perhaps that's the real question here, do our broadcasters deserve to stay in business when they'e putting out so much rubbish?

Originally Posted by pengedragon

I thought this was one of the few places left on the net where I didn't encounter offensive claptrap

Its one of the few places not yet ruled by the PC brigade, so ... wow ... people can have different views to you.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Horizon

As you cite all media companies, I'm assuming your question is just a media one, rather than a wider question on British identity.

I love nothing more than a good British drama or comedy. But as far as the good 'ole sitcom goes, they're pretty much extinct now. That's not the fault of the Americans, though.

A few American spy related films and shows I've seen set in modern day Britain has shown British policemen running through train stations or streets blowing whistles.... I think the last time they did that was in the 1950's.

In Game of Thrones, characters like Jamie Lannister are called Ser Jamie, rather than Sir Jamie. Obviously, lazy Americans couldn't be bothered to get the spelling right on that.

So, yes, in that sense, if our identity or culture is through an American lens, it can be altered or changed, watered down etc. But...

Game of Thrones is superb. American made, American written, American money but with a mostly British cast and crew. Imagine ITV ever attempting anything like that? Like hell! The same as The Crown, currently the most expense show made ever.

With some British shows, I quite even don't even bother with them now, if I know they will only be a few episodes in the entire series, as I prefer the American binge watching of seeing three or four eps a day and get through a whole series in a week.

If it were a choice between purely American shows like Homeland and Breaking Bad, or purely British shows like Jeremy Kyle and Come Dine with me, I know what I'd choose. I just wish the British broadcasters, while they still exist, put on better stuff. Perhaps that's the real question here, do our broadcasters deserve to stay in business when they'e putting out so much rubbish?

l would hasten to add that Sherlock , Peaky Blinders , Poldark , Luther , Happy Valley , Taboo , Call The Midwife , Downton Abbey , Line of Duty , etc , etc , etc are all British made high quality shows..

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by denphone

l would hasten to add that Sherlock , Peaky Blinders , Poldark , Luther , Happy Valley , Taboo , Call The Midwife , Downton Abbey , Line of Duty , etc , etc , etc are all British made high quality shows..

Here's a few others.
http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/2018-...tv-dramas-2018
We still lead the way in quality, if not money and quantity.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Here's a few others.
http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/2018-...tv-dramas-2018
We still lead the way in quality, if not money and quantity.

Some good stuff there Mr K from what l have watched thus so far with some of those shows still to come later this year.

[tvtimes]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Its one of the few places not yet ruled by the PC brigade, so ... wow ... people can have different views to you.

So you view those comments as acceptable then?

[alwaysabear]

Originally Posted by tvtimes

So you view those comments as acceptable then?

Its a point of view and its not offensive.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by denphone

Some good stuff there Mr K from what l have watched thus so far with some of those shows still to come later this year.

It's the BBC still making most of the best stuff. The Jeremy Thorpe drama was for me the best thing on TV this year. Some of these programmes wouldn't be made by commercial stations if they didn't think they'd attract advertisers. Constant attacks on the licence fee and the BBC by this Government make the future a bit worrying for quality UK made drama. It'll be US crap and reality TV.....

[Jacquesb]

I find it offensive - there should be no place for that sort of comment here !

There may be more US content screened in the U.K. than ever, but 30 years ago it was all screened on one of the public service channels whereas today almost none of it is. The overwhelming bulk of programming spend by the BBC, ITV and Channel 4 is on British-made content. (In 1988 the newest iteration of Star Trek was shown by BBC2. Today’s Trek isn’t even available on broadcast TV).

[tvtimes]

Originally Posted by alwaysabear

Its a point of view and its not offensive.

So stating we're going to be taken over by Sharia Law and Muslims are taking over areas isn't a prejudice statement?
There are people here who find it offensive whether you do or not.

[nfs6600]

Originally Posted by tvtimes

There are people here who find it offensive whether you do or not.

There are also people here who don't find it offensive whether you do or not though...?

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by pengedragon

Wow

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I thought this was one of the few places left on the net where I didn't encounter offensive claptrap

Sadly I was wrong

I don't see anything offensive in that post, just an opinion.

If you're offended by that I'm amazed you get out your front door without shrieking in horror.

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Originally Posted by tvtimes

Whether a joke or not that is shocking.

What is shocking?

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Originally Posted by tvtimes

So you view those comments as acceptable then?

Yes, what is unacceptable about them?

Thats enough on that, get back to the subject please.

Some posts deleted as continuing to be off-topic - please desist.