A guardian journalist suggests Nelsons Column should be brought down

Originally Posted by Mick

So is she right? Do we pull it down or is she stark raving mad

She is completely bonkers.

It's all part and parcel of our history. As long as we acknowledge that history I see no reason to erase any of it.

I read the thread title as far as "A Guardian journalist suggests ..." and knew whatever followed would be a steaming pile of self-loathing, unpatriotic quisling slime.

I wasn't wrong.

Originally Posted by Chris

I read the thread title as far as "A Guardian journalist suggests ..." and knew whatever followed would be a steaming pile of self-loathing, unpatriotic quisling slime.

I wasn't wrong.

However disagreeable her position may be it seems harsh to call it 'quisling', that's the language of militant nats. To me a quisling is some one who is literally being a traitor and not someone who simply shows a lack of perceived patriotism.

On the contrary, there are plenty of those on the radical left who loathe this country for its perceived past crimes and would dearly love to change it so radically that they would destroy it. They are the ones who, a generation ago, quietly hoped for Soviet takeover and the end of American influence. I know exactly who Vidkun Quisling was and I invoke him deliberately.

Originally Posted by Chris

On the contrary, there are plenty of those on the radical left who loathe this country for its perceived past crimes and would dearly love to change it so radically that they would destroy it. They are the ones who, a generation ago, quietly hoped for Soviet takeover and the end of American influence. I know exactly who Vidkun Quisling was and I invoke him deliberately.

Maybe but even then during the days of the Soviets there were only a minority of people on the wide spectrum of the left who were actively working to either feed the soviets information or otherwise get into positions of power that they hoped would advance that agenda. We're talking about The Guardian here, not the Morning Star.

There is a difference between soviet agents or communists and writers of articles we disagree with.

It's an awful lot of people that would be tarred with this brush.

Well they are sure as hell not patriots and this agenda that's only really present in western democracies which if it got it's way would lead to the collapse of the west and the world would be a lot worse. Those in the past were and stayed a minority because of lack of organisation and easy communication thanks to the internet communication has never been easier so their numbers are and will continue to grow.