#BoycottVirgin

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu

Well doesn't Richard know about our Democratic vote - well rich geezers, don't give a crap about people that live on the poverty line, does he.

Its ok for people to say that he is a nice guy. But if he was such a nice guy. He would allow VM treat its customers with contempt and allow a company to treat its customer's like Bottomless pits of money, and always put subs up

Branson does not own VM Liberty Global does. Just correcting your misinformation again

I'll take Branson over Sir Philip Green any day.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Between 2014 and 2020:

Cornwall is allocated £863 per head (£476million for the region)
Wales, £627 per head (£1.9billion)
Tees Valley, £243 per head (£162million)
North Eastern, £221 per head (£430million).

Which should explain why Cornwall's politicians were immediately trying to get assurances from Westminster that it would replace their funding.

Personally I wouldn't bother. They made their bed.

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I wouldn't bother either if I were them, if past government's gave a toss about these areas they wouldn't have needed European handouts in the first place

[Ignitionnet]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

I wouldn't bother either if I were them, if past government's gave a toss about these areas they wouldn't have needed European handouts in the first place

Exactly.

Cornwall got extra as its GDP was less than 75% of the EU average, so it received convergence funding, same funding chain as Eastern European nations, to try and bring it closer to the wider EU.

As a councillor of mine proved very few realise how many programmes the EU was actually funding.

All well and good saying it was our money, which is true, but our own governments clearly had other priorities.

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Exactly.

Cornwall got extra as its GDP was less than 75% of the EU average, so it received convergence funding, same funding chain as Eastern European nations, to try and bring it closer to the wider EU.

As a councillor of mine proved very few realise how many programmes the EU was actually funding.

All well and good saying it was our money, which is true, but our own governments clearly had other priorities.

Arguably, EU schemes, ultimately funded as they are by our own contributions, are a disincentive to Government action. It also neutralises regional depravation as an election issue.

These sorts of things should be front and centre of UK government policy. Perhaps, when the government of the day can no longer shrug its shoulders and outsource the problem to Brussels, the debate will change and we will start to take an appropriate interest in them.

[pip08456]

Originally Posted by Chris

Arguably, EU schemes, ultimately funded as they are by our own contributions, are a disincentive to Government action. It also neutralises regional depravation as an election issue.

These sorts of things should be front and centre of UK government policy. Perhaps, when the government of the day can no longer shrug its shoulders and outsource the problem to Brussels, the debate will change and we will start to take an appropriate interest in them.

Hopefully it will be money well spent rather than things like cycle lanes that lead to nowhere and suddenly stop.

In Bolton several years ago they reduced the bypass to one lane each way from two to provide a cycle lanes that no-one uses. All under EU funding.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Chris

Arguably, EU schemes, ultimately funded as they are by our own contributions, are a disincentive to Government action. It also neutralises regional depravation as an election issue.

These sorts of things should be front and centre of UK government policy. Perhaps, when the government of the day can no longer shrug its shoulders and outsource the problem to Brussels, the debate will change and we will start to take an appropriate interest in them.

Or we'll just have huge swathes of the country left to rot like in the '80's, I believe the government of the day thought that exactly the appropriate amount of interest to take in them.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

He's not UK resident indeed, but then neither does he have any real operational involvement in Virgin Media.

How self-centred he is I've no idea. Given the impact of all of this falls far harder on the poor than people like him it's tricky to blame his views on self-interest.

He has no operational involvement in Virgin Media, I'm not even sure if he is still a shareholder.

The only involvement he has is the £30 million he puts in sky rocket each year from leasing his brand to VM.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Between 2014 and 2020:

Cornwall is allocated £863 per head (£476million for the region)
Wales, £627 per head (£1.9billion)
Tees Valley, £243 per head (£162million)
North Eastern, £221 per head (£430million).

Which should explain why Cornwall's politicians were immediately trying to get assurances from Westminster that it would replace their funding.

Personally I wouldn't bother. They made their bed.

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In fairness to Cornwall, its councils warned its inhabitants about losing EU funding if we left the EU. They are now seeking reassurances from the Government that it will be replaced by UK funding. It's not the councils who made their bed but their naive residents who trusted the Leave Campaign's many, often contradictory, promises.

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Originally Posted by Pierre

He has no operational involvement in Virgin Media, I'm not even sure if he is still a shareholder.

The only involvement he has is the £30 million he puts in sky rocket each year from leasing his brand to VM.

He's not a shareholder, VM is 100% a subsidiary of LGI.
In fact, many Virgin-branded businesses are largely owned by other companies eg
Virgin Music - 100% by Universal Music
Virgin Wines - 100% Mobeus Equity Partners and Connection Capital
Virgin East Coast Trains - 90% Stagecoach Group
Virgin Books - 90% by Penguin Random House
Virgin Active - 80% by Braite
Virgin Radio UK - 100% by News Corp

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Originally Posted by pip08456

Hopefully it will be money well spent rather than things like cycle lanes that lead to nowhere and suddenly stop.

In Bolton several years ago they reduced the bypass to one lane each way from two to provide a cycle lanes that no-one uses. All under EU funding.

Liverpool's been transformed by EU funding and has been one of the fastest-increasing cities for contributing taxes to the UK.
It's not the EU's fault if councils' schemes don't work out as planned, it's up to the councils themselves to devise robust plans.

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Originally Posted by Maggy J

I'll take Branson over Sir Philip Green any day.

Totally. Or Mike Ashley.