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Old 09-06-2016, 08:57   #16
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Re: London mayor - pledges? What pledges?

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I'm sure there must be some stuff out there to show Labour in a more positive light, but I'm not really seeing that , why is that?
Two failed and one invisible leader, two lost elections, no credible policies, a trail of broken promisies, the biggest economic bust since the thirties and a distain for the working class they claim to represent?

Not that the rest are much better but it's all a matter of degree.
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How is it a rant when prior to being elected khan said one thing has since got elected and is now going back on it he either knowingly lied during the campaign or he is inept but either way so soon after getting elected he's reneging on one of his pledges. Anyone that accepts this is a bigger problem then the political windbag in my opinion and demonstrates why we manage to get such poor elected representatives in this country of all colours. Too many British people would vote for a turd if it had the right rosette on it, how about we rediscover our own value and then only vote for those who deserve it and if they are rubbish we bin them five years later. For too long the political parties have had no real value of the UK's citizens and we are partly to blame but if we really want better in future and prevent the likes of khan holding an office we need to do better first.


It would also be pretty useful if the silent majority got off their backsides and got registered to vote and actually went to vote however appalling the choices seem..
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Re: London mayor - pledges? What pledges?

Indeed the choices are appalling but many people died so we could all vote nowadays so in my book there are no excuses not to vote.
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Re: London mayor - pledges? What pledges?

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Two failed and one invisible leader, two lost elections, no credible policies, a trail of broken promisies, the biggest economic bust since the thirties and a distain for the working class they claim to represent?

Not that the rest are much better but it's all a matter of degree.


There's a simple reason why some folks whine when their side's lies are exposed - the truth hurts.

There's a simple reason why this forum isn't full of threads extolling the virtues of the Labour party - even their own supporters around here can't think of any.

They may seek to deny the truth but they've nothing else to say...
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Old 09-06-2016, 13:46   #20
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Whilst I don't have much time for labour we desperately need a credible opposition which we don't currently have and I think it's highly damaging for our democracy and although labour has mistakes in it's past let's not pretend they are the only one's.
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Whilst I don't have much time for labour we desperately need a credible opposition which we don't currently have and I think it's highly damaging for our democracy and although labour has mistakes in it's past let's not pretend they are the only one's.
I'd agree and have said so in the past. IMHO the current government is in the process of making the biggest mistake of all by keeping us in the EU, but we already have a very big thread devoted to that.

So come on Labour luvvies, stop whining and start persuading us why we should vote for Corbyn and in the meantime, less of the denial about the subject of this threat, namely a new Labour Mayor (son of a bus driver for those who didn't know) who's already palpably failed to do what he promised.
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Still a Labour rant .. just look at the posting history. The aim is to rant about a Labour mayor and not to present an objective, balanced commentary on the new London mayor's policies ..
So why don't you balance the commentary by telling us how Khan hasn't lied through his back teeth to get into power ?

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It would also be pretty useful if the silent majority got off their backsides and got registered to vote and actually went to vote however appalling the choices seem..
Why should people vote for people/parties they don't support ? It simply isn't right to say people should vote regardless ,they have to have something to vote for . In our system not voting by enough people can send a pretty powerful message
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So why don't you balance the commentary by telling us how Khan hasn't lied through his back teeth to get into power ?

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Why should people vote for people/parties they don't support ? It simply isn't right to say people should vote regardless ,they have to have something to vote for . In our system not voting by enough people can send a pretty powerful message
No it doesn't. It's a first past the post mentality and the winning party doesn't give a stuff about the fact that they don't have the support of anything up to 2/3rds of the electorate of voting age.They just simply ignore them.

However if you won't be part of the process then you have no right to criticise the choice of those that did bother.
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So why don't you balance the commentary by telling us how Khan hasn't lied through his back teeth to get into power ?

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Why should people vote for people/parties they don't support ? It simply isn't right to say people should vote regardless ,they have to have something to vote for . In our system not voting by enough people can send a pretty powerful message
Because he can't, he's got nothing to say - just another sad Labour whinger ready to deny or excuse his party's lies and ineptitude. Just look at his posting history...

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There's a simple reason why this forum isn't full of threads extolling the virtues of the Labour party - even their own supporters around here can't think of any.
It's also because this forum clearly trends to the right. Plenty of other platforms are dominated by Labour supporters, it just happens this isn't one of them.
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It's also because this forum clearly trends to the right. Plenty of other platforms are dominated by Labour supporters, it just happens this isn't one of them.
Yet rather than attempt to redress the balance with reasoned argument or even contradict the OP he resorts to it's 'another Labour rant blah blah blah...' Pathetic.
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So why don't you balance the commentary by telling us how Khan hasn't lied through his back teeth to get into power
My point was not to support or defend Mr Khan. My point was the endless sequence of biased Labour Rant threads .. but you knew that ..

Regarding Mr Khan, being a politician, he will lie. They all seem to do it nowadays, I mean, look at the Leave campaign Why so surprised? He was either naive or stupid. Maybe when he got hold of Boris's financial accounts he realised there was no money to do what he has promised? Who knows ..
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Regarding Mr Khan, being a politician, he will lie. They all seem to do it nowadays, I mean, look at the Leave campaign Why so surprised? He was either naive or stupid. Maybe when he got hold of Boris's financial accounts he realised there was no money to do what he has promised? Who knows ..
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My point was not to support or defend Mr Khan. My point was the endless sequence of biased Labour Rant threads .. but you knew that ..
You only see it as a rant because it is Labour involved .I agree though Osem does rail against Labour quite a lot ,but so do I and many others on this forum,maybe you should consider that the reason is because of the disappointment we feel in the labour party ,the party, that in these days of the super rich taking whatever they feel like, should be supporting the working man and should be the party i and perhaps Osem would be supporting if the party had any real substance .

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. Maybe when he got hold of Boris's financial accounts he realised there was no money to do what he has promised? Who knows ..
Oh come on ,London is hardly broke
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A new contraction for Londoners to get used to? - khan't .
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