Virgin Media Business 300Mb announced - Page 2

ccarmock · 25-01-2016, 22:16

if you go into the product help section for the 100, 200 & 300 Mb/s service it talks about the Hitron router and fixed IP subnets:-

We can supply static IP addressing but you need to request this at the time of ordering. The available options are 1, 5 or 13 usable public IP addresses. Multiple static IP addresses will be allocated as a sub-net of sequential addresses. Once allocated, IP address sub-nets cannot be extended. In the case that a larger allocation is required the old sub-net must be replaced with a new one. This will require reconfiguration of the gateway and the connected devices.

nickgoldman · 25-01-2016, 22:37

Let me know if you find out any more info.

qasdfdsaq · 26-01-2016, 12:16

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

It's a new thing. The existing kit couldn't do 300Mb reliably and they didn't want to use the residential CPE.

People may note that their postcode may show they can only receive up to 200Mb. Unlike the 200Mb residential deployments where sales insisted on new customers everywhere being able to order it the 300Mb is only going to be released in areas when the capacity is there.

Is it me or are VM learning from past mistakes this time?

:shoc ked:

: shocked:

Ignitionnet · 26-01-2016, 16:57

Kinda. I've heard someone claim they have STM after 6pm - download over 12GB and enjoy a 75% slow down.

Will see what I can find out. The terms and conditions are vague. No throttle between 8am and 6pm then '5% affected'. Though no thresholds or details on slowdown.

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Okay no throttling at any time for right now.

ccarmock · 26-01-2016, 22:07

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

[/COLOR]Okay no throttling at any time for right now.

Interesting - thanks for this. There is download STM on the older 50 Mb/s SH1 based service - I triggered it a couple of times. It only applied out of working hours. A bit crazy for a business service - people might run replication or a backup at night....

The VMB website still says no throttling during working hours as it did before, but doesn't go further than that.

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Originally Posted by nickgoldman

Let me know if you find out any more info.

I had a good conversation with VMB sales today. They confirmed that no routed subnet option just yet, but it is planned. They quoted (subject to change) by the end of Q2 and likely in May.

They seemed quite keen to get me to upgrade, but I said I am unable to until the routed subnet option is available.

He confirmed they are waiting on firmware from Intel he said - but I suspect it's firmware for the Hitron box.

The manual linked in this thread is old 2014 generic Hitron branded firmware.
The VMB help section shows one screen shot that shows it's been customised for Virgin Media

nickgoldman · 26-01-2016, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccarmock

Interesting - thanks for this. There is download STM on the older 50 Mb/s SH1 based service - I triggered it a couple of times. It only applied out of working hours. A bit crazy for a business service - people might run replication or a backup at night....

The VMB website still says no throttling during working hours as it did before, but doesn't go further than that.

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I had a good conversation with VMB sales today. They confirmed that no routed subnet option just yet, but it is planned. They quoted (subject to change) by the end of Q2 and likely in May.

They seemed quite keen to get me to upgrade, but I said I am unable to until the routed subnet option is available.

He confirmed they are waiting on firmware from Intel he said - but I suspect it's firmware for the Hitron box.

The manual linked in this thread is old 2014 generic Hitron branded firmware.
The VMB help section shows one screen shot that shows it's been customised for Virgin Media

Did you ask about modem mode? I am wondering whether it is worth trying in routed mode until modem mode is available.

ccarmock · 26-01-2016, 23:17

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Originally Posted by nickgoldman

Did you ask about modem mode? I am wondering whether it is worth trying in routed mode until modem mode is available.

I didn't I'm afraid - just routed subnet mode.
I have a direct email address for a person there so will ask that question

Synthetic · 27-01-2016, 10:54

I wonder if these increased upload speeds on the business packages could be a hint of things to come on the residential packages too?.... (in areas that can support it)

Kushan · 27-01-2016, 11:27

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Originally Posted by Synthetic

I wonder if these increased upload speeds on the business packages could be a hint of things to come on the residential packages too?.... (in areas that can support it)

It's an interesting one, that's for sure. For our business, we only have 50Mbit down but we also have 50Mbit up and that's far more useful to us than 300/15 would be. I would have thought a lot of businesses these days would be more concerned with upload speeds than download speeds, especially above a certain threshold. So it's interesting that 100/200/300 services all have 15Mbit upload.

Synthetic · 27-01-2016, 12:12

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Originally Posted by Kushan

It's an interesting one, that's for sure. For our business, we only have 50Mbit down but we also have 50Mbit up and that's far more useful to us than 300/15 would be. I would have thought a lot of businesses these days would be more concerned with upload speeds than download speeds, especially above a certain threshold. So it's interesting that 100/200/300 services all have 15Mbit upload.

Pretty much what I was thinking but for my home connection, I run a Plex server and I'd much rather have a higher upload and sacrifice some of the download for it.

Ignitionnet · 27-01-2016, 12:36

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Originally Posted by Synthetic

I wonder if these increased upload speeds on the business packages could be a hint of things to come on the residential packages too?.... (in areas that can support it)

Eventually; not for a little while though at least for obvious reasons.

**Paul** · 27-01-2016, 12:59

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

I doubt the upload will stay at 15Mb for long either

As in you think it will increase ?

Synthetic · 27-01-2016, 13:45

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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Eventually; not for a little while though at least for obvious reasons.

Understandable. Least it's in the pipeline

MUD_Wizard · 27-01-2016, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccarmock

The manual linked in this thread is old 2014 generic Hitron branded firmware.
The VMB help section shows one screen shot that shows it's been customised for Virgin Media

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCkAtQQjRSw

I'm pretty sure it will just be a logo change from the above UPC GUI.

ccarmock · 28-01-2016, 00:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickgoldman

Did you ask about modem mode? I am wondering whether it is worth trying in routed mode until modem mode is available.

Heard today they are expecting modem mode at the same time as routed subnet. Sounds like a future firmware release will provide both.

Q2 (likely May) was quoted again.