Jihadi Gone?

Unfortunately, any attempt to extract him would probably resulted in loss of life, both locals and the attempted arresting forces.

People keep confusing films with real life.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

People keep confusing films with real life.

How so, by deliberately misinterpreting what was said, I guess that's a sort of script writing

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

How so, by deliberately misinterpreting what was said, I guess that's a sort of script writing

It's kind of a pointless statement though isn't it? Yes it would be better if he was put on trial but he is/was held up in an ISIS stronghold in Syria. It would have required a pretty substantial military operation to get him out of there. Remember that we're dealing with effectively a standing army here rather than just one group that special forces could deal with. It wouldn't have been possible to get him into court.

So with that in mind how are we meant to read Corbyn's statement? At best it's a bit of ideological grandstanding or at worst it's a implicit criticism of the way the Government handled the issue.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Damien

It's kind of a pointless statement though isn't it? Yes it would be better if he was put on trial but he is/was held up in an ISIS stronghold in Syria. It would have required a pretty substantial military operation to get him out of there. Remember that we're dealing with effectively a standing army here rather than just one group that special forces could deal with. It wouldn't have been possible to get him into court.

So with that in mind how are we meant to read Corbyn's statement? At best it's a bit of ideological grandstanding or at worst it's a implicit criticism of the way the Government handled the issue.

How about we don't read anything into his statement except what he actually said, it saves pointless and meaningless conjecture. Much like on remembrance day when people couldn't wait to jump on him because he didn't bow down the regulation length, their ire was only satisfied when it became apparent corbyn was the only politician who stayed behind afterwards to meet the actual veterans.

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/8506416

[Ramrod]

Originally Posted by Ignitionnet

Nothing wrong with an aspiration.

On the face of it, that's a good idea (rule of law etc) but think about what would have happened if that could have been acheived. He's been captured, put on trial and imprisoned for life.........his buddies then set about periodically capturing westerners as hostages to get him released, committing attrocities in retaliation for his imprisonment. More innocent people die and others suffer because we decided to do the right thing and capture him. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Originally Posted by Ramrod

On the face of it, that's a good idea (rule of law etc) but think about what would have happened if that could have been acheived. He's been captured, put on trial and imprisoned for life.........his buddies then set about periodically capturing westerners as hostages to get him released, committing attrocities in retaliation for his imprisonment. More innocent people die and others suffer because we decided to do the right thing and capture him. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Our intention would be that we are a democracy that believes in the rule of law and are prepared to stick by it..and it wouldn't ever matter to this group because they use any excuse to justify their actions without any rule of law.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Maggy J

Our intention would be that we are a democracy that believes in the rule of law and are prepared to stick by it..and it wouldn't ever matter to this group because they use any excuse to justify their actions without any rule of law.

Like it or not, methinks we're going to need some new laws to cope with the new threat.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

How about we don't read anything into his statement except what he actually said, it saves pointless and meaningless conjecture. Much like on remembrance day when people couldn't wait to jump on him because he didn't bow down the regulation length, their ire was only satisfied when it became apparent corbyn was the only politician who stayed behind afterwards to meet the actual veterans.

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/8506416

I am reading only into this statement and I am questioning why he felt the need to state that the guy should have had a fair trial when it wasn't at all feasible in the circumstances.

[Osem]

Originally Posted by Damien

I am reading only into this statement and I am questioning why he felt the need to state that the guy should have had a fair trial when it wasn't at all feasible in the circumstances.

Because Corbyn lives in a fantasy world and his views appeal to fantasists. He's been on the fringes of power and virtually anonymous for so long that he can't break the habit now he's a party leader.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Damien

I am reading only into this statement and I am questioning why he felt the need to state that the guy should have had a fair trial when it wasn't at all feasible in the circumstances.

Perhaps he felt the tabloid type jingoism surrounding this needed an antidote, who knows and who other than those with an axe to grind or not so well hidden agenda cares

[Ramrod]

Hmmm, this article encapsulates what is wrong with left wing thinking in the west:

The Guardian has responded to the death of psychopathic ISIS terrorist Jihadi John as only the Guardian knows how: by reviving a charming, Facebook-style photo montage showing the martyred victim’s tragic journey from “shy, football-loving boy to Isis killer”.

If you read the sub-heading, you might even get the impression that the “Isis killer” part is in some doubt.
I can’t, somehow, imagine the Guardian devoting quite such special pleading to the case of a less ideologically sympathetic psychopath. For example, I’ve looked at its profile of Anders Breivik from the time of the Norway massacre, and there’s definitely no attempt made to tell us what a cute, lovable kid he was. His racism, Islamophobia, and right-wing politics, it’s made clear, are the driving force behind his actions. No doubt they were but had the Guardian given the same treatment to Emwazi, it would surely have treated us to lavish detail about the terrorists and terrorist-sympathisers he hung out with and about the Islamofascist ideology with which he had so clearly been indoctrinated.

Instead, the Guardian treads on eggshells in its eagerness not say anything bad about Islamism.
.....That’s the problem with the liberal-left these days: its so lunatic extreme it’s forever threatening to put parody out of business.

[Osem]

Totally agree.

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Ramrod

Hmmm, this article encapsulates what is wrong with left wing thinking in the west:

This web site (www.breitbart.com) encapsulates what is wrong with right wing thinking in the west:

I’m a Gay Man and Mass Muslim Immigration Terrifies Me

Discrimination: 2,098 Syrian Muslim Refugees Allowed Into America, Only 53 Christians

It Works! Israel’s Policy of Home Demolitions Yields Arrest Of Terror Suspect

[denphone]

l think whether its the radical left or right the vast majority of people prefer thinking that is more in the middle of those two.

[broadbandking]

Glad he is dead, I can only hope he suffered like he made all those victims and their families suffer.