Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | Down the Plughole

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > General Discussion > Science & Technology
Register FAQ Community Calendar

Down the Plughole
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 21-03-2015, 18:52   #16
Matth
Inactive
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Services: BB:M, TV:XL, Phone:M, Loyalty
Posts: 2,516
Matth has reached the bronze age
Matth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze ageMatth has reached the bronze age
Re: Down the Plughole

Condensing what I found in passing... coriolis effect applies under laboratory controlled conditions, but in real life other perturbations are likely to start the rotation in one direction or the other.
Matth is offline   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 21-03-2015, 18:58   #17
Wittmann
Guest
 
Location: Stonehenge
Services: Kahuna TiVo Big Bundle.
Posts: n/a
Re: Down the Plughole

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matth View Post
Condensing what I found in passing... coriolis effect applies under laboratory controlled conditions, but in real life other perturbations are likely to start the rotation in one direction or the other.
In a sink, bath or anything with a plug, the removal of the plug will most certainly start a vortex disturbance, by simple volume displacement and if the plug tilts, which it always does, you get a paddle effect created by the upward pull and hence a rotating vortex.

Bang goes the rather likeable myth.
  Reply With Quote
Old 21-03-2015, 19:31   #18
Russ
cf.mega poster
 
Russ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Half in the corporeal, half in the etheral
Posts: 37,181
Russ has a golden aura
Russ has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden aura
Re: Down the Plughole

Seems like there's plenty online to suggest it is a myth, for example from Wiki (which although I'm sure you'll point out can be edited by anyone)..

Quote:
Contrary to popular misconception, water rotation in home bathrooms under normal circumstances is not related to the Coriolis effect or to the rotation of the earth, and no consistent difference in rotation direction between toilet drainage in the Northern and Southern Hemispheres can be observed.
__________________
From Jim Cornette:
“Ty, Fy, bye”

Russ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-03-2015, 19:43   #19
Hugh
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
 
Hugh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 68
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 43,539
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Re: Down the Plughole

And funnily enough, UCL, one of the world's leading Universities, think it's a myth as well....

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/maths/research/fluids-gateway/faq

Quote:
Is it true that water goes down the plughole with the opposite spin in the Southern Hemisphere?

No, well maybe, but it has nothing to do with which hemisphere you are in.

It is true that because the Earth is rotating, the Coriolis force has an effect on the motion of water, and this effect is reversed between the northern and southern hemispheres. However, the importance of this effect is measured by a number known as the Rossby number, R, which is the ratio of the average speed of the fluid and the product of the rate of rotation of the Earth (at a particular latitude) and the length scale of the motion. Flows with small Rossby numbers are strongly affected by the rotation of the Earth, while those with large Rossby numbers are not. If we consider a sink that is 30cm wide in London and assume that the water flows at approximately 10cm/s, then the Rossby number of the flow would be close to 10000. Basically, this has no bearing on the direction of the flow. The biggest effect you’ll see comes from the initial direction of the flow and the symmetry of the basin, which could very well be different depending where you are in the world.
__________________
Thank you for calling the Abyss.
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare.

If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
Hugh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 21-03-2015, 19:46   #20
Russ
cf.mega poster
 
Russ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Half in the corporeal, half in the etheral
Posts: 37,181
Russ has a golden aura
Russ has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden aura
Re: Down the Plughole

That episode of the Simpsons has a LOT to answer for it seems.
__________________
From Jim Cornette:
“Ty, Fy, bye”

Russ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-03-2015, 10:55   #21
Wittmann
Guest
 
Location: Stonehenge
Services: Kahuna TiVo Big Bundle.
Posts: n/a
Re: Down the Plughole

Seems like the consensus of opinion is that it is a myth.

We need a few Aussies on the Forum.
  Reply With Quote
Old 22-03-2015, 10:56   #22
Maggy
The Invisible Woman
Cable Forum Team
 
Maggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: between Portsmouth and Southampton.
Age: 72
Services: VM XL TV,50 MB VM BB,VM landline, Tivo
Posts: 40,340
Maggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden aura
Maggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden auraMaggy has a golden aura
Re: Down the Plughole

Well I suggest most people don't care either way..There are much more wondrous things to observe in the world and the universe.
__________________
Hell is empty and all the devils are here. Shakespeare..
Maggy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-03-2015, 11:02   #23
dilli-theclaw
R.I.P.
 
dilli-theclaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Near Sandy Heath transmitter
Services: BT
Posts: 19,325
dilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden aura
dilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden auradilli-theclaw has a golden aura
Re: Down the Plughole

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy J View Post
Well I suggest most people don't care either way..There are much more wondrous things to observe in the world and the universe.
Yup - like ME!!!!!!
dilli-theclaw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-03-2015, 12:05   #24
Hugh
laeva recumbens anguis
Cable Forum Team
 
Hugh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 68
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 43,539
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Re: Down the Plughole

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wittmann View Post
Seems like the consensus of opinion is that it is a myth.

We need a few Aussies on the Forum.
I worked in Auckland 12 months in two years, and there was no discernible different pattern - sometimes one way, sometimes the other.
__________________
Thank you for calling the Abyss.
If you have called to scream, please press 1 to be transferred to the Void, or press 2 to begin your stare.

If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
Hugh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-03-2015, 12:11   #25
Russ
cf.mega poster
 
Russ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Half in the corporeal, half in the etheral
Posts: 37,181
Russ has a golden aura
Russ has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden auraRuss has a golden aura
Re: Down the Plughole

I'm guessing it depended on what you ate...?
__________________
From Jim Cornette:
“Ty, Fy, bye”

Russ is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 13:29.


Server: osmium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
All Posts and Content are © Cable Forum