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Old 18-02-2015, 12:03   #16
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Re: Church of England calls for 'fresh moral vision' in British politics.

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They were attacking him.

"Under the cover of Christmas, Bishops in the Church of England mounted an extraordinary assault on Brown, using separate interviews with The Sunday Telegraph to preach damnation of Labour's record. The Bishop of Manchester accused the party of being "beguiled by money" and "morally corrupt"
Damn fine piece of internetting there, Mr A.
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Re: Church of England calls for 'fresh moral vision' in British politics.

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Damn fine piece of internetting there, Mr A.
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Old 18-02-2015, 20:56   #18
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Re: Church of England calls for 'fresh moral vision' in British politics.

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No only about a third of the population.
in 2002 the amount of Anglicans that regularly attended church (i.e.those that might actually give a toss to what Mr Bish says) either at weekends or through the week was 1.2million.

in 2014 it was reported as being down to 800,000.

In 2008, 22.2% identified themselves as anglican, even though most of them wouldn'tknow what the inside of a church looked like and I would summise that the decline has continued.

So I think your claim of a "third" of the population is slightly wide of the mark.
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Re: Church of England calls for 'fresh moral vision' in British politics.

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They were attacking him.

"Under the cover of Christmas, Bishops in the Church of England mounted an extraordinary assault on Brown, using separate interviews with The Sunday Telegraph to preach damnation of Labour's record. The Bishop of Manchester accused the party of being "beguiled by money" and "morally corrupt"
It's the next bit that was more relevant.
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This followed the treatment meted out by Number 10 to a perfectly reasonable critique of the PM's self-styled rescue plan from the Archbishop of Canterbury, with Dr Rowan Williams asking whether it is wise to cure a crisis produced by an excess of borrowing with ever more borrowing.
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Re: Church of England calls for 'fresh moral vision' in British politics.

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So I think your claim of a "third" of the population is slightly wide of the mark.
Not so.

Official figures from 2005 show there are 25 million baptised Anglicans in England and Wales.

The population of the UK is around 60 to 70 million.

Unless you've heard from each of those 25 million and have been told they have no further affiliation with the C of E perhaps your maths may require brushing up.
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Re: Church of England calls for 'fresh moral vision' in British politics.

Well I'm not going to argue too late into the night.

But if you take figures of mainly infants that had no say in the matter when they were indeed baptised, then more fool you.

I was baptised Roman Catholic, but I am not so now I am an adult and can make my own assessment.

Results of a Social Trends survey in 2008, 3 years after yours, put the % of those that call themselves Anglican at 22.2%

And as widely reported practising Anglicans are as low 800,000.

So rather than brushing up on mathematics, I would suggest you need to brush up on reality.
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Re: Church of England calls for 'fresh moral vision' in British politics.

You may benefit from brushing up on reading what I actually said.

Did I say "people who attend church every sunday"?

Did I say "people who practise all the teachings of C of E"?

No, I said its followers. Those who take an interest.

I agree it's too late to argue, especially when there is nothing to argue about.
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Re: Church of England calls for 'fresh moral vision' in British politics.

A lot of people class themselves as C of E. (for religious form purposes)
but many many many are not infact religious in any way.

this is down to being dumb. thinking that because they're British they must be C of E.

idiots.

I strongly suspect that the C of E option is a ploy.
makes the numbers up.
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Re: Church of England calls for 'fresh moral vision' in British politics.

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A lot of people class themselves as C of E. (for religious form purposes)
but many many many are not infact religious in any way.

this is down to being dumb. thinking that because they're British they must be C of E.

idiots.

I strongly suspect that the C of E option is a ploy.
makes the numbers up.
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