Yet again - Cyclist Killed in London

[Kursk]

Originally Posted by techguyone

Well Kursk, it's really quite simple. If you use the Highway, follow the code - how hard can it be?

Of course, not arguing that point but the Code applies to all road users and I think you'll find the code is broken more often by groups other than cyclists.

Let's be frank. Car drivers don't want cyclists in their way and will try any which way to get rid of them. It's not going to happen.

There will never be cycling insurance, MOT or road tax nor should there be.

[Taf]

A new crop of Uni students has meant a new crop of lunatic cyclists around here. Some of their antics make me shudder, others make me gasp with disbelief.

[denphone]

Well l don't drive but my observations are there are as many bad cyclists as bad car drivers so l think a little bit of consideration and thought on both sides would certainly make for safer roads in my opinion.

[Sirius]

Cycling encourages and enforces the Darwin effect

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Sirius

Cycling encourages and enforces the Darwin effect

but some of them are very skilled i mean i cant ride a bike with my hands in my pockets -i cant judge the right time to go through a red light ,i can't get down the left hand side of a truck that is turning left

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

but some of them are very skilled i mean i cant ride a bike with my hands in my pockets -i cant judge the right time to go through a red light ,i can't get down the left hand side of a truck that is turning left

That's not skill that's the Darwin effect in operation

[Stephen]

Its all very well saying cyclists need educated/trained.

However I think you will find that most cyclists know they should be wearing protection. \they just choose not to.

[Gary L]

Cyclists should get off and walk.

it will be safer for them and less stressful and annoying for car drivers.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Its all very well saying cyclists need educated/trained.

However I think you will find that most cyclists know they should be wearing protection. \they just choose not to.

what safe sex while cycling ?

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Originally Posted by Gary L

Cyclists should get off and walk.

it will be safer for them and less stressful and annoying for car drivers.

that's cycleaphobia

[Pierre]

If you cycle on the road you should need a licence.

You should have to pass a test.

I had to pass a test for car and I had to pass a test for motorcycle, as each have their own issues and things to look out for.

I don't see why a pedal bike should be any different.

Originally Posted by Pierre

If you cycle on the road you should need a licence.

You should have to pass a test.

I had to pass a test for car and I had to pass a test for motorcycle, as each have their own issues and things to look out for.

I don't see why a pedal bike should be any different.

Nonsense,once again the issue of enforcement and the hugely detrimental consequences of forcing licences and insurance on cyclists is being ignored .

[Stephen]

When I was at primary school, we got basic clycling saftey lessons from the local council.

I think I still have the wee badge. It was called cycling proficiency. Think I was about 10 at the time.

You can train people all you want but if they hoose not to wear a helmet then that is their decision.

Not all cyclists are idiots though and there are just as many bad drivers out there. Parking on double yellows, parking in disabled bays. Going through red lights, not using indicators. The list could go on.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by martyh

Nonsense,once again the issue of enforcement and the hugely detrimental consequences of forcing licences and insurance on cyclists is being ignored .

it's not nonsense, what is nonsense is letting people with no training whatsoever onto our ever increasing dangerous roads.

A licence is proof of meeting a minimum required standard of proficiency to operate a bicycle on the road.

I didn't say anything about insurance, however a wise person would insure themselves 3rd party at least, lest you risk losing a few quid if you cause an accident, or in a worse case scenario, you house.

Enforcement, you don't need to enforce it. I have a driving and motorbike licence, I've had them check by the police once in 27years.

But if the police should ever want to check it, i have it.

If you don't want to do any of this then, stick to tow paths and green lanes.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Pierre

it's not nonsense, what is nonsense is letting people with no training whatsoever onto our ever increasing dangerous roads.

A licence is proof of meeting a minimum required standard of proficiency to operate a bicycle on the road.

I didn't say anything about insurance, however a wise person would insure themselves 3rd party at least, lest you risk losing a few quid if you cause an accident, or in a worse case scenario, you house.

Enforcement, you don't need to enforce it. I have a driving and motorbike licence, I've had them check by the police once in 27years.

But if the police should ever want to check it, i have it.

If you don't want to do any of this then, stick to tow paths and green lanes.

[Kursk]

I hope the kids enjoy the bikes we bought them for Christmas. Now as soon as we get their license, tax, MOT and insurance sorted out, they'll be able to use them .